> > wasn't jodi.org just antiorp's previous domain name? > I doubt it. Although all is possible. However I found jodi.org much more useless and LOW profile. can't say that about antiorp. Besides, jodi.org won a prize at Arselectronica in 1997 or 98 and if it was antiorp he'd sure brag about it (as he brags a bout all the other stuff). well... i do hope that jodi != antiorp. -MiS