In your e-mail, there seems to be a bit of segregation, using the word "outsider" and "they are after all serious composers." What is being implied here? A distinction of "hip computer-geeks" from "unhip computer-geeks"? (If I'm not mistaken, I thought I saw some academic composers on the interest-description of this list). Besides the stirrings of an "us vs. them" vibe, there was the implications that non-academic composers are firmly the source for innovation. Is this really all that important? Can we not just enjoy ourselves with what we ceate or listen to without feeding into some kind of segregation trip?