Re: [microsound] * off -icmc

[Dale Lloyd <dkl37@xxxxxxxx>]

Hello. I've not heard university composers in residence or on the faculty
use the term "serious" to describe what they do and since even the
composers on this list that take their own work with a grain of salt,
would consider themselves "serious" to a certain extent, I wasn't sure of
the accuracy of the term as it was used. No biggie. My concern really
lies in hearing people "young and old," trying to create or perpetuate a
separatist mindset. I understand that you (caleb~k) were frustrated
partly because you were witnessing some of this very thing at the
Off-icmc event, but as I'm sure you are aware, it doesn't do any good to
perpetuate it. Academic or not, it's all good. Peace, Dale.

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:36:35 +0800 caleb~k <caleb.k@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> 'serious' is/was a term used last century to describe composition 
> from within the academy...
>     what used to get called classical music in lay terms...computer 
> music is serious in this sense and in that fact that they use scores 
> 
> and so on and so forth
> <++note musicology relies heavily on the score...>
> it has nothing to do with hip-ness
>    but about background and training...
>        .how many micro.musicians have training from the 
> conservatorium here?
> 
> 
> 
>   Dale Lloyd <dkl37@xxxxxxxx>
> >  In your e-mail, there seems to
> >be a bit of segregation, using the word "outsider" and "they are 
> after
> >all serious composers." What is being implied here? A distinction 
> of "hip
> >computer-geeks" from "unhip computer-geeks"? (If I'm not mistaken, 
> I
> >thought I saw some academic composers on the interest-description 
> of this
> >list). Besides the stirrings of an "us vs. them" vibe, there was 
> the
> >implications that non-academic composers are firmly the source for
> >innovation. Is this really all that important? Can we not just 
> enjoy
> >ourselves with what we ceate or listen to without feeding into some 
> kind
> >of segregation
> >trip?
> 
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