[microsound] pita, fennesz. . . Patches in general

[michaela_s <michi@xxxxxxxx>]

hi vance,  

i hope to never come across hear someone playing who thinks there?s heart and 
soul already in the patches (you might think that as being a programmer maybe). 

there?s absolutely no need knowing where sounds come from - it?s the result 
that counts. or let?s say: good music/sounds shouldn?t need information/comments, 
whatever to get understood. 
do you think a piece sounds good/better knowing how it?s made? 

the work of all the Fennesz cds available is done by Fennesz himself. 
a musician may use max patches only to "transport" his own compositions and 
then it?s just using them as a tool - nothing else. 
Fennesz is a great musician, not a programmer. 
m


> Sorry to have this happen so late (I get the digest version), but:
> 
> Toadying(?) (I assume as in putting down) I was not I just wanted a
> discussion. . .  (but I seem to have just upset people). . .
> 
> And my feeling is not that the music is not "good," (I lost some respect
> for
> him, but I'm still listening to HP and +/-, and I'll probably buy
> "Endless
> Summer" when it comes out. . .) it's just that there is no credit. . .
> and
> no indication of where the work went, and was done by who. . . .
> 
> The guitar analogy is a little week. . . We can understand the skill of
> a
> guitar player, because we know what a guitar sounds like. . . (I think)
> we've all even strummed its strings (at least once). We can recognize a
> guitar and know how it sounds in the hands of a bad player and a good
> player, because a guitar is universal. . .
> 
> A Max patch however is not. . . by no means. . . You can have patches
> that
> borderline play themselves, or far more involved processes, but the
> patch is
> still much more than a simple "instrument" (or brush. . .), because of
> how
> much hart and soul is already in the patch (I play both sides here, I
> both
> play and write my own patches. . . and all though you can sound bad
> playing
> them if you don't know what your doing it still sounds like me (just not
> doing so well)). .. .
> 
> I also believe that there is an importance in knowledge of what your
> actually doing that does not come from playing someone else's patches. .
> .
> That you may know how to get close to the sound that you want, but I
> think
> you need to know where that sound is coming from (how its made).
> 
> Well, I hope to here from both sides this time. . .
> 
> Thanks,
> Vance
> 
> 
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