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Re: [microsound] autechre ain't what they used to be



> although i will agree with you about the crowd jumping to its feet... 
>very odd... but not suprising, seems to be the norm..
>perhaps the lighters in the air is next. i think people expected to 
>start dancin.

Speaking of crowds during autechre shows.....A good portion of the crowd at ATP during autechre's set were very enthusiastic.  There was a large group dressed up in devoesque construction vests of some type.  They were flailing their limbs about in a very chaotic manner which veiwed from afar could have been mistaken for a moshpit.  People were chanting "autechre".  And I remember a very enthused girl who was screaming like a 13 year old at her first n'sync concert.  I almost expected to see panties flying at the stage.  I think next time I go see autechre everyone should bring a big bag of panties and start flinging them on stage.  



  richard chartier <chartier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
hello.. adding my 2cents to your 2p. : )


>just to add my 2p. on the "autechre ain't what they used to be" debate.
>
>saw autechre at lovebytes as well, "failed to enage" is perhaps the best
>description . much like the audience who only took their heads out of their
>asses, and got to their feet en masse when the autechre appeared, thought
>that shit only happened at rock concerts. honestly I think the best
>indicator of the dynamic in any "scene" is to look at the audience, at
>lovebytes I was left wondering WHERE are the freaks? even the 2 or 3 freaks
>present were not REAL freaks. only saw nice, well groomed, well dressed
>"serious young people" with short hair cuts & plenty of disposable income to
>spend in the overpriced bars. not a junkie in sight. it did promise to get
>interesting when some guy got really drunk and started to kick a chair about
>on sunday, but by then it was too late, i am afraid.


i dont understand how what someone looks like equates to their 
freakness... or interestingness.
so is a show a failure by virtue of its audience.... ? i prefer to 
think of it in terms of whether i enjoyed and not what the person 
next to me looks like (even if they are doing some kind of butterfly 
motion with their hands... hehe)

so was the show that non-engaging that the people watching was a last 
resort : )


although i will agree with you about the crowd jumping to its feet... 
very odd... but not suprising, seems to be the norm..
perhaps the lighters in the air is next. i think people expected to 
start dancin.




>
>nothing else really of note over the whole weekend, though was pretty
>impressed by hecker, very harsh set, in contrast to one I saw him play last
>year which was a lot more "sculpted" and precise. anyway, imo felix kubin
>shat over everybody at the festival on sunday, when he dared to display a
>"personality". but then I am biased.


felix kubin was

his personality is very much intrinsic to his work... whereas i dont 
think the other performers work (such as myself) incorporates 
displays of "personality". my work and my personality are two 
separate entities.. very different.. other than i am a 
perfectionist... : )

does anyone have thoughts on this concept of "personality" in electronic music.
i think it is all very dependant on the type of work you are doing.

for example felix kubin's work is made even more enganging by his 
interaction with the audience.
but the only other artist that i have seen that really uses this is CEX.



>
>> "multilayered anarchic mix" "sonically deadly mix of noise and beats" that
>turn upside down everytime you thought you knew where it was going.
>
> gimme a break mmmmm... do you guys get out much? or do you write for
>The Wire? come to Glasgow and you can hear this sort of set every weekend
>played by drunken neds* at a parties in Glasgow. a few old Chicago & UR
>records plus a bottle of vodka usually can simulate the "russell haswell dj
>experiance". Only costs 6.75 (for the vodka) as well.


perhaps we are not as lucky as you to live in such an exciting world 
of stimuli such as you described : )

the question becomes "is it chaos.. or is it organized chaos"


hehe
richard
(not currently writing for the wire)
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