Re: [microsound] completely OT yet so on-topic

[Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxx>]

Marc thanks for your input this is what I was hoping for as Im sure david
was to (althrough I cant speak for him personally)
being a candian and seeing the FTAA meeting happen right in my own back
door dissgusted me.... I already have had many problems with the FTAA
already many of which you mentione din your post below on how it effects
me but to have it happen in your own back year throws it right on home...
sort of in your face in a way...
I am glad to see that this list has a few if not more people on it that
can think beyond the bubble of thier computer and thier music and see that
thingslike this effect them regardless...
Neil..


 On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, tiln wrote:

> I don't see this as OT at all, because it effects everyone.  Since we
> consume products to
> create this 'music' we need to understand where they come how they
> negatively effect economic and
> ecological systems at their root.  Dismissing this as OT is naive and
> possibly shows that there are
> 'artists/consumers' that are as 2 dimensional as the processes they strive
> to control.
>
> We are all 'political people'; if we are not we might as well sign it all
> over to the 'corporation' and
> diddle with our toys until they come knocking at our door to tattoo us with
> barcodes.
>
> It's curious to see how a 'privileged' person views this as most of the
> planet does not have this information, let
> alone a method of communicating in this manner.
>
> We are spoiled brats, self-consumed with our own filth and ideas of 'right'
>
> We are liars and destroyers sucking the blood out of the planet.
>
> Wake up, take your eyes away from the glowing screen and see what the world
> 'is'.
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> At 05:33 PM 4/23/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >But I am still interested in seeing how such issues effect mircosounders
> >not political people, this is why Im pushng this topic (along with David)
> >on this list... I think it is interesting to see how things effect us as
> >producers of microsound art. Or does it even... personally I think it
> >does......
> >
> >Neil..
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, rebecca salame belenke wrote:
> >
> > > go to http://www.microsound.org  and you will find that this is a list for
> > > exchanges about MICROSOUND and not a political sounding board. I know that
> > > there are MANY other lists for political discussion, I am a member of a few
> > > . I joined THEM for political discourse, I joined microsound for discourse
> > > on this subject. I'm not upset that you care about politics, I just don't
> > > want to read about that subject here in microsound, and I'm fairly certain
> > > that  some other members  feel the same way, or we wouldn't be HERE,
> > we'd be
> > > at a political list with each other!
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "rebecca salame belenke" <Rebecca263@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 5:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [microsound] completely OT yet so on-topic
> > >
> > >
> > > > perhaps the attachment will assist you in your quest for what THIS
> > list is
> > > > for.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Neil Wiernik" <neil@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 4:57 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [microsound] completely OT yet so on-topic
> > > > > > > in the words of arnold schwarzenegger:  stop whining!
> > > > >
> > > > I dont know why is it that all
> > > > > electronic music lists seem to be populated by the most a-political
> > > > > people
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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