Re: [microsound] completely OT yet so on-topic

[Jeremy Tolsma <ccws@xxxxxxxx>]

> very interesting thought here, but after a century of communism,

what century of communism?  the 20th century was a century of capitalism.

> can you
> mention me an example of a place where the workers retained ownership of
> wealth that worked and didn't lead to mass executions, starvation and
> repression (China, Russia, Nothern Korea, Cuba, former eastern Europe)?
>

You fail to mention that, during the period in which they were struggling to
convert their societies from feudalism to communism, those nations were
under attack by rival hostile capitalist nations.  Intelligence agencies
were sponsored by capitalist nations for the sole purpose of promoting
insurgency within communist nations.  When a new government is struggling to
govern a population, especially if they got the job by military coup, it is
easy for capitalists (with money at their disposal) to sponsor insurgency.
They can hire gangsters, turn political rivals into martyrs, and generally
drive a communist state into the kind of chaos that predicates totalitarian
rule.  But it is even easier and cheaper for capitalists to buy democracies
which is why they try to instill an almost religious zeal over 'democracy'
in the citizenry of the capitalist nations.

> Even when I dislike the man, Churchill said: democrazy is bad system, but
> it's the least worse we have.

Churchill was a booze-addled warmonger.   Indeed, democracy was the best
system for him and his cronies to use to advance the capitalist agenda.