Re: [microsound] Greetings (lengthy)...

[Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Catharsis,
ummm sorry ot be so absentminded but can you remind me where I met you
befor as I sort of remember the name but sort of dont...

Thanks and sorry for being such a forgetfull person...
Neil..

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Catharsis wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I've been around here a while; there are several people on this list that I
> have met elsewhere; hello again (Lee, Neil, and I am sure there are
> others!). I usually make a lengthy first post as it is often fun to find
> context with a group of interesting people (you guys). I'll be in lurk mode
> in no time. I was going to wait on posting until I revamped my web site
> with Koan oriented music and new information (bio, etc. as I have been
> involved with so much music that what is up there doesn't do things
> justice; IE music influences page way underdeveloped; A Swans release was
> my first "out" purchase back in ' 94. been a hell of time since then as
> that was an "awakening" of sorts; considering one of the songs lyric went
> something like this, "someone more powerful than you should rape you"; got
> me thinking). This political talk got me excited as I believe that music
> connotes all forms of communication and is not limited to emotion.
>
> In terms of electronic music I have been involved in hosting events ranging
> from industrial "back in the day" to more techno (including the real genre)
> focused on the central coast of California in San Luis Obispo for about 3
> years now (~85 events; ran a community club that lasted 65 weeks
> consecutively; premise was not raving; premise was to create a temporary
> autonomous zone; it worked; could talk for days on it). Wished you guys
> could see it in the height of its time. It was _temporary_ though, besides
> it is not like I envisioned myself running a club night in SLO ten years
> from now... ;) I am moving on to host one off free day events in a nice
> secluded park where people can come from ambient, downtempo, abstract beats
> and to BBQ and do whatever they want. I am still letting the rest of my
> former collective (Bad Monkey) go on with their "house only" ambitions (I
> did not force the split; I left when I became fed up with narrow views on
> music; their loss). I am still letting them use my equipment (own half a
> Cerwin Vega Intense sound system with another guy in town).
>
> Anyway, I have learned so much about my peer group and life through running
> music events.
> Not only have I had to tolerate music I normally would not listen to, but
> it has put me in touch with people who live their lives beyond the tech and
> academic world. This has been invaluable considering that I could have
> easily been wooed by the tech culture (been programming for 9 years
> seriously now; started with C and got online around '92; tinkered with
> Basic since childhood). So,  for the most part I have provided [one of?]
> the "real thing[s]" in SLO for a large sector of the youth (community club;
> we let in people who could not pay). I'm rejecting all American culture now
> (arguably have been for a while). <-- Many interesting thoughts here. Too
> much to say.
>
> It sure would be interesting to see more people become aware of music at an
> early age, unfortunately not many Americans get the opportunity to have
> hands on experience. Without that experience music remains a cultural
> afterthought. _The pretenses are never challenged_. I invite people all the
> time to come over to my house and studio. Sadly, there are few takers on
> this offer.
>
> In the last six months I really have been turned onto microtonality and
> alternate tuning. There are so many riches out there. The microsound
> community has made great progress; it is just the beginning though. The
> uncharted territory is massive.
>
> I "know nothing" after 16 years of guitar playing, 3 years of DJing, and 1
> year of attempted production. I love music....
>
> In terms of a world view I am still trying to formulate one; making good
> progress (my books to read are constantly piling up higher! I am whittling
> away on this area, but not faster than my free time). ...Don't think I ever
> will though as I am currently viewing life as a labyrinth instead of a
> linear path. It seems better to run things in parallel than follow point a
> to b. This doesn't necessarily mean being a "jack of all trades". I guess
> you could sum up my current view as "anarcho-transhumanism" (do a search in
> google... heh heh). Hate to apply words to my views as others have used
> "anarcho-futurism" in ways that I don't agree with. For those that have
> read about transhumanism you might have come across Extropianism
> (www.extropy.org). I am anti Extropian. Extropians are the Libertarians of
> the futurists. You can wax poetically all day about the benefits of future
> technology, but that isn't going to get you anywhere and it certainly is
> not practical. <--- ok lots to say here too, but I'll leave it for the
> music and my web page. I think an active voice can be formed for
> anarcho-transhumanism that both appeases and links primitivism and
> futurism. <-- Haven't really found any writings that do this. Anyone have
> any links? Books?
>
> Thanks for whoever posted on the CCMix program a couple of months ago
> (http://www.upic.asso.fr/). I applied and was accepted. I will be in Paris
> this July (this requiring a loan; I'm broke; it will be worth it; for the
> last two weeks I have been on that infamous college diet as I had to cover
> the deposit; Grr, gear money....). Curtis Roads will be giving his first
> public presentation on his new microsound book. :) I'll keep you guys
> informed. I've been waiting for it for a while. The CREATE web site said it
> was due in '99!
>
> Anyone interested in hanging out while I am in Paris? I would really like
> to kick it with like minded people. I already have compiled a list of
> stores/clubs; more info would be helpful though. Particularly microsound info.
>
> I am trying to find contact information in regard to a techno underground
> scene in Paris (I understand the clubs are all house). I am acquaintances
> with the London acid techno folks and they have no contacts; that is
> discouraging. I am hoping to get a couple of performances together while I
> am in Europe. I have a DJ friend in Madrid and might make it out there to
> perform with his collective and quite possibly will get a chance to perform
> in London. I'm doing it for the experience and fun of it, so please do get
> in touch ($ is not an issue; I'm free; ok, maybe a couple of beers!). I
> would love to find out about a free party scene in the Paris area. That and
> any microsound events. I am going to hit up this one for old times sake (la
> locomotive, july 11th 2001, paris - france ) Hypnoskull and some other
> power noise acts will be performing.
>
> I might also mention that I am willing to set up a return lay over in terms
> of flights to perform at any city between here and there (all of US and for
> all intents and purposes Canada). I have not received any offers to perform
> in SF or LA despite the fact that I hosted a ton of DJs (some promoters)
> from all over Cali at my own events. I am about to finalize a date or two
> in Pittsburg, PA on my way over there (might be opening for John Acquaviva;
> shh; crossing fingers; this is tentative as the group I am talking with has
> not got it finalized). Approximate time coming back is August 7 -- 18th.
>
> I don't have much completed music. I am waiting on getting a pro analog
> device for my studio (have been waiting on the Aardvark Q10; supposedly to
> be released in May; this will finally set me free!). Here is a link to my
> first track (not to be released ever). Again I have come very far from this
> starting point; this track is not microsound. I put this together last
> June. It quite possibly will be the only song where I have used factory
> patches (this and Rebirth w/ factory patterns). Sadly, I was borrowing the
> Supernova you hear. The bassline is from a Bochem Welt track FYI. Since
> then I have been researching a lot of things, acquired more software, and
> have learned much about the recording process.
> http://www.egregious.net/~catharsis/tracks/tones.mp3 I also have not sent
> it out to any other email lists or have it linked publicly. This is and a
> DJ comp (Live March 7th; see below) I sent in for the CCMix demo material,
> so I don't mind sharing it with this group as I found out about that
> opportunity here. Here is another tidbit with a little guitar.
> http://www.egregious.net/~catharsis/tracks/thing_var_final.mp3 These two
> links are "throw aways"!
>
> I am up to chat with anyone on any of the above on list or off. I really
> value communication especially from outside the US (hence this list is
> great!). As was mentioned the American mass media really does not let
> foreign ideas or objections permeate the news. You have to search those
> things out on the web and determine if they are true yourself. Destroy your
> TV.... blah blah ;)
>
> Here is a link to my DJ compilations. In particular I like Divide and
> Conquer and Live March 7th.
> www.egregious.net/comps/
>
> I will gladly exchange a mix tape (Divide and Conquer) and CD (Live at Bad
> Monkey March 7th) for any producers CD/records on this list. The same for
> anyone that has DJ mix compilations. I will gladly exchange 1:1. All my
> money is going to equipment now and I don't have enough microsound music. I
> get stuff online of course, but that is not everything. Also, if anyone
> wants to purchase a tape and CD I will gladly send both out with shipping
> for $5 US and $10 international. International orders must pay me the
> equivalent of $10US with non US currency. I consider that beer money for
> when I do travel... ;)
>
> Interesting article (I like Attali's books; some are good to recommend to
> people just thinking outside the box):
> http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/attali.html
>
> Good source of alternative information:
> http://www.mediaisland.org/
>
> Venues:
> http://indie-music.com/venues.htm
>
> Cheers,
> --Catharsis
>
> PS. Taylor. Your work with P-909 material still rocked the floors in SLO
> over these last two years. Timeless...
>
>
> Egregious
> "Spiritual renewal through music for those outside the heard."
> http://www.egregious.net/
>
>
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