Re: [microsound] nn spew

[Michal Seta <mis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

on 8/2/01 12:27 AM, Christopher Sorg at csorg@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
 
> It may be off-topic, I'm not sure, but I sure found it to pique my
> curiosity...interestingly enough the only people responding to those posted
> comments were members of Cycling'74 themselves, defending themselves, of
> course.  I assume that Cycling'74 has only half of the story, right?

nobody really knows....

> Besides, I learned a lot from investigating the dispute and discovered more
> about Max/MSP in the process.  I'd like to know more about NN's claims,
> however.

like what would you like to know?

>  I mean, it's not like Cycling'74 is giving us their software,

not like NATO is being given to us for free.....

> the
> posts are somewhat disturbing and many people are still using NATO as a
> professional performance tool (for example, the Nobakuza Takemura/Tortoise
> show).

propaganda's goal is to disturb.  NN obviously is doing a good job with you.
.... sorry, couldn't resist ....

>  Being an informed consumer is an okay thing, even for IDMers.  I am
> *not* suggesting by any means, to engage in rumor-mongering.  Max/MSP, I am
> now convinced, is a fine tool and deserving of it's reputation and the hard
> work put into it, but I don't think it helps to just sweep the comments
> under the bed, all hush-hush like.  Think of the newbies, at least...

well, many software companies have their problems.  People use the software
anyways.  What's important is how the software suits your needs.  If you
don't like the price/attitude/other issues related to the software, you can
usually turn to a competitor/alternative.

For Max/MSP you get PD and jMax.
I've never seen NATO but from works I've seen that were done in NATO you
could probably substitute it by GEM and there's this video addition to jMax
that I haven't investigated yet.  They're probably different packages, based
on different concepts and allowing you to work in completely different ways.
But then you can adjust you message to the tool :)
Or learn to use the tool (any tool) so it will help you convey the message.
whatever


../MiS