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i wanna be a wrock stars ass... see my lap, top?



anyone that calls themselves, or believes tehy are, a promoter, should do a better job than getting 35 people to pay at the door. there is nothing wrong with getting paid scale if you are a musician. if youre a hobbiest, than a beer on the house may be fine. a real promoter, not a dabbler, should recognize the worth of an artiost or performer, and not expect them to sleep on the floor, go hungry, work for chips and warm beer or stale water.

the diy'ers, may have a day job,,,so a 10 city tour in the week off from burger smack, or mit ,,, but some do not, and some performers actually do perform, the same, as a career. "hundreds of dollars" is anything over one hundred and 99, isnt it? is that unfair for two days travel and a day waiting around in a $39 hotel room to play?

while you may have been booking shows for ten years, or fifty, if it were a profession to you, you would know better. youre no promoter, your a dunk (not punk) who puts on shows... get any lately?

grow up...

fa ta la mata






I do have to full heartedly agree with Ian on this one, but electronic music culture has always had that air to it. Its a far cry from the DIY ways of punk rock which is where I came from. I had a hard time dealing with all the over priced gigs, cds, equipment and othe rthings associated with it all. And from a promotures persective I find is really sad that any artist who does this music would could even ask for the amounts of money that they ask for to play. In the greater skeam of things, I loose my shirt each and every time I do a gig becasue of it, whats wrong with tewlling a promoture: as long as doing the gig does not cost me money Im happy, please cover my basics (travel, loging, food) and if you turn a profit from the gig then lets talk about paying me and how much. But instead (and kim this is not directed at your recent private email to me so please dont take this personally your not alone in your requests) I get insane requests for gurreentees of hundreds of dollars in USD of course (even when they are from germany or some other place), requests for first class flights, delux hotel rooms, ect ect... when the reality of it is that doing a show with any one particular microsound artist draws a total of not more then 50 persons haflf of which are on the guest list so that means 25 paying people if your lucky 35 at no more then 10 bucks a head. if you do the math you can never break even .... no matter what lets face it the culture of electronic music as a whole. is that directed towards a previleged class... some thing to think about...



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