re: i wanna be a wrock stars ass... see my lap, top?

[caleb.k@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

> anyone that calls themselves, or believes tehy are, a promoter, 
> should do a better job than getting 35 >people to pay at the door. 
> there is nothing wrong with getting paid scale if you are a 
> musician. if youre a >hobbiest, than a beer on the house may be 
> fine. a real promoter, not a dabbler, should recognize the >worth of 
> an artiost or performer, and not expect them to sleep on the floor, 
> go hungry, work for chips >and warm beer or stale water.

i do and do not agree with these sentiments...firstly it really does 
depend on how much is being asked and in what context. it is really 
hard putting on gigs in australia as producers have to fly 18-25 
hours just to get here....then stay on a floor or in a bed and 
breakfast...then play to 100 odd people if they are lucky....again 
depending on who they are....   i have recently had kim cascone and 
francisco lopez    and their requests were more than ok   - 
completely fine.
         while i have heard of some crazy fees being asked .... it 
would have cost $7000(us) to put on a show of ikeda's ($2500 artists 
fee plus tech requirements),  vlad delay asked for $1500 (us) per 
show, farben asked for $1100 (us).  needless to say these three did 
not come as there is simply no way to pull this sort of cash without 
HUGE promo and they are simply not big enough to risk so much money.

i guess i am saying each and every case needs to be seen as separate. 
it is their life - their day job etc and they do need to get 
enough...but at the same time it is easy to ask for way too much and 
get nothing.

 kim and francisco were well looked after. i spent heaps of time 
showing francisco the city and oren helped us spent heaps of our 
money on the best food. i bet that wouldn't happen with a big time 
promoter...if i had $7000 resting on a gig  i would not be taking 
time to chat, nor sleep...and i would rather spread the cash around, 
if it was there...

caleb.karl
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