Re: [microsound] post-modernism

[Super Coffee Beans <moog@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

i promise last one about this (this is just a matter close to my heart).

Ian i agree with alot of stuff you said. but i am sure you would like to
know that what we call  modern philosophy is from descartes - the philosophy
of the subject. again this is all catagories i am sure descartes didn`t
think that he is a modern thinker or whatever. this is why post-modern as
such is kinda weird idea too.
but any way this is too offtopic i guess.
SCB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian andrews" <i.andrews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:06 AM
Subject: [microsound] post-modernism


>> i don`t see any connection between post-modern philosophy (a phrase i
hate
>> mainly) and micromusic (music which i like basicly).
>> maybe it will be better if u will check what post-modern means?
>
>I might recommend the same to you.  Postmodernism has come to mean a great
>many things, which is to be expected, I suppose, of any movement that is
>"post" anything.  In music, it encompasses works as diverse as the
>schizophrenic abstraction of Autechre's "Confield" and the sparse
meditation
>of Arvo Pärt's "Tabula Rasa".  It also includes the music we call
>microsound.  It's a bit of a catch-all term, covering both re-introduction
>of classical elements (as in Pärt), and exaggeration and deconstruction of
>modernist elements (as in Autechre).  As to the relationship between
>philosophy and music, I will only say: it's no coincidence that Clicks &
>Cuts came out on a label named Mille Plateaux, after the book by Deleuze
and
>Guattari.  Microsound is probably the most aggressively
>postmodernist/deconstructionist genre in music at the moment.

I also hate the term "post-modern philosophy." It is a mass media term that
really makes no sense. For there to be such a thing as post-modern
philosphy there would have to be such a thing as modern (or modernist)
philosophy, which there isn't.
The rather vague umbrella term "postmodernism" generally refers to what is
called "post-modern culture," (concepts such as kitsch, camp, pastiche,
recombinant media, etc.) "post-structuralist philosophy," (such as D&G,
Derrida, Baudrillard, etc.) and "post-industrial society." (the information
& service economy). But of course all these things are inter-related in
some way.

However, I would suggest that within the culture of microsound, glitch,
etc. there is a strong movement away from post-modern culture, in
particular, away from irony and pastiche, and towards a much more modernist
aesthetic of purity and abstraction. This constitutes a return to concerns
with the materiality of sound in itself, isolated from textual and cultural
references. Of course this is not to say that all microsound music falls
under this description.

Ian Andrews:  The Horse He's Sick, Disco Stu, Hypnoblob, Kurt Volentine,
Cut with the Kitchen Knife, Sanity Clause, Battleship Potato, Operation
Bodyshirt, Zeroville, Target Audience, NBP, Organarchy,
Subvertigo.....Lymph, Borgia Ginz...
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http://sysx.org/microsound/iana/



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