RE: [microsound] herbs&spice and everything nice

[David Fodel <DFodel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

yeah. true enough. paint is also a tool.

i suppose i was trying to differentiate between a medium of communication
and the tools used to create the meaning in any given communication
utilizing any particular medium (the content).

and in relation to that thread of modernist painting, are we too doomed to a
spiralling self-referential practice that finds itself wrapped up too
tightly in its tools, chasing it's own version of "flatness"?

David Fodel
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> From: 	Christopher Sorg
> Reply To: 	microsound
> Sent: 	Tuesday, February 5, 2002 7:00 PM
> To: 	microsound
> Subject: 	RE: [microsound] herbs&spice and everything nice
> 
> > From: David Fodel [mailto:DFodel@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >
> > as far as paint goes... it's a medium, not a tool.
> 
> I'm sorry, but I'm a bit annoyed by this, being a painter and all.  Just a
> little something for your from Webster:  Tool - "something (as an
> instrument
> or apparatus) used in performing an operation or necessary in the practice
> of a vocation or profession."
> 
> You can limit your definitions as much as you want to.  That doesn't
> change
> the fact that , at the very least, brushes, palette knives, sticks, air,
> various other items, and yes, even paint, are tools used to create in the
> painting medium.
> 
> How a painting is created and how a sound is created, in fact almost
> everything humans do (besides just sitting and thinking, or walking around
> poking stuff with their fingers) is mediated through the use of a tool.
> And
> believe it or not, this "tool is the message" discussion goes back *at
> least* to modernist painting issues, if it isn't even more deeply rooted
> in
> Plato's insistence on rhetoric over the spoken word.
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> Christopher Sorg
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> The School of the Art Institute of Chicago
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