Re: [microsound] women not in microsound

[jason.frank@xxxxxxx]

okay, sorry i gotta go tolsma on this whole thing...

the very fact we're talking about women making music as 
women at all, as opposed to just composers we like means 
that we're automatically being in some way sexist, 
implying that their anatomy and or constructed gender 
roles are even an issue. it's like, oh she's good, for a 
girl. shouldn't we not talk about this at all? i mean, 
the only thing we should be saying is why aren't their 
many girls at the top of the genre? why isn't it a 
fifty-fifty split like it should be? why are the ladies 
allowed to half-ass their dedication to digital music. oh 
yeah, and don't give me some opression line of bs, i 
think young dorky males are a helluva lot worse off than 
any young lady. we get the shaft. the only reason we make 
all the music and write all the books and type all the 
code is that nobody likes us. that sounds a helluva lot 
more like oppression than, gee, my lipstick is all wrong.

okay, so i'm coming off all misogy here but i think it's 
more liberated to take off the kid gloves and really ask 
the tough questions. where is gender equality when we're 
humoring efforts not at the top of the form ('cept maybe 
mori, oliveros) because, hey, good try honey.

okay, flame away, i've got my asbestos undies on... 
> >From: "yatra arts" <yatra-arts@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: Re: [microsound] women in electronic music
> >pal,
> >ever heard of researching yourself after getting some =
> >names.....discovering is a wonderful thing
> 
> research is a great thing...there is no need to worry about my 
> research practice. but lists of names go no where towards adding to a 
> discussion especially when they are way off line...shiomi from group 
> ongaku is a perfect example. and i repeat this as you added the name 
> to the list i believe.
>   susie Ibarra was even added to the list
> 
> is the point of the original statement to make a database of names or 
> to discuss the position of female composers in 21st century 
> electronic music (microsound) and discourse?
> 
> also remember we are on the microsound list so maybe the discussion 
> could at least aim at our general genre of discussion...how did jazz 
> and japan fluxus come into it?
> 
> >