Re: [microsound] Re: wired/lowercase/macs/oh my!

[Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxx>]

no you need to stick a sock in it you pretentious punk!
jesus who the fuck needs to fucking over analys things to death are we all 
that bored that we need to navel gaze adn think its q bad thing every time 
some else for the out side wants to learn about what your interested in.
look up the defination of cimmunity your self Im not even going to both to 
school you its a waste of my time as the last thing in the world I want to 
get into is a fucking pholosphical disscussion about a music genera...
its musis what ever who fucking cares who likes it and who listens to it 
and how much money there is in it and if its good or bad all your talking 
about is asehtic values you have your own and other have thier own leave 
it that who really cares do you????



On Sat, 1 Jun 2002, NON-DESCRIPT wrote:

> My apologies if I sounded flippant. It was a poorly worded question. There
> is something about your position that doesn't quite fit for me, but I'm not
> sure I can put my finger on it.
> There seems to me a little bit of a fracture between the idea of a
> "community" defined as a "group of people who listen to microsound" and the
> idea of "awareness from the outside". If I am newly aware of microsound and
> I listen to microsound at what point do I become a member of the community?
> Moreover does the assumption of a community constitute an elitist's
> standpoint in and of itself?
> I don't mean to offend. I tend to have to spew things out and then pick
> through the pieces for some sense of coherence.
> I find the role of money in enhancing accessibility a double-edged sword.
> More people may be aware of it, but does that necessarily translate into the
> experimentation/innovation I think you are suggesting would naturally occur?
> Like I said, I tend to spew. I need to relax.
>                                                     nd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: wired/lowercase/macs/oh my!
> 
> 
> >
> > now your just being difficult.....
> > the community of individuals that listen to whats called microsound
> > music...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 30 May 2002, NON-DESCRIPT wrote:
> >
> > > what community are you referring to?  nd
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: wired/lowercase/macs/oh my!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > simple, more people putting money into a commonity means more ability
> for
> > > > availalblity of this sort of music which equals more awareness and
> > > > experimentation from out side of the community by others. Its like
> this:
> > > > how did you hear of microsound (or what ever you personally called it
> > > > befor it was called MS, I had refered to it as experiemental music
> back
> > > > in the 80s and 90s when i first was exposed to the work of kims and
> > > others)?
> > > > didnt that exposure to it turn
> > > > you on to it and cause a new found interest for your self in the music
> > > > now how ever you choose to take that new found interest is up to you:
> as a
> > > > consumer, a producer, a promoture and so forth. Well with more money
> being
> > > > spent on these labels becasue of that larger interest it means more
> > > > records can come out and more people will be exposed to it...
> > > >
> > > > neil..
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 30 May 2002, NON-DESCRIPT wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > how exactly does that process work? from your experience how does
> more
> > > money
> > > > > translate into more new blood being flushed into the "producing
> end"?
> > > i'm
> > > > > having difficulty seeing this, but i have difficulty seeing in
> general.
> > > > > thanks.
> > > > >                   nd
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [microsound] Re: wired/lowercase/macs/oh my!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have encountered that situation many times over with all corners
> of
> > > > > > musical genras I dont find it scary at all in fact I fnd it
> > > interesting to
> > > > > > obverve and see how things move out of non popular culture and
> into
> > > > > > popular culture.
> > > > > > Its like the whole clicky glitchy techno sounds that were comming
> out
> > > of
> > > > > > cologne 5 years ago people thought I was wierd when I discribed
> the
> > > kind
> > > > > > of music I was making or ask me who is tomas brinkmann
> > > > > > or mike ink. And now they are household words for the most part in
> > > certain
> > > > > > circles. I think like any thing there comes a time when your
> little
> > > secret
> > > > > > is no longer a secret and I think of it like this the more the
> merrier
> > > ...
> > > > > > that means if it popular annd there is demand for it then there is
> > > more
> > > > > > money pumped into te community and more records, shows and tours
> can
> > > > > > happen as well as in turn more new blood flushed into the
> community
> > > both
> > > > > > from a consumer and prodcuing end of things.
> > > > > > so its all good and the elitest attitude of ssssshhhheee lets keep
> > > this a
> > > > > > secret is silly and not very cool at all.
> > > > > > neil..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 30 May 2002, lowercase wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > i have to say that i'm highly amused right now.  numerous people
> > > have
> > > > > > > asked me about microsound and lowercase music and are wondering
> what
> > > to
> > > > > > > buy/listen to.  anyone else having the same highly scary
> situation
> > > > > > > happen?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > brad
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > we have some very interesting things going on...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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