Re: [microsound] microsound as pop music

[Andrei <andrei@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Beni Borja wrote:

> I never ever had the intention to call you elitist , I was just trying
> to be honest to my own views...I'm never trying to "tag "you
> anything....but let's face it...elitism exist way beyond populism...

I didn't really take it personally in that instance, but I can relate to
it. Even my own parents occasionally tell me to come down to Earth. I
think populists can throw that accusation at people due to a sense
of mistrust and suspicion which really comes from a lack of understanding.
I'm interested in the work of people like Xenakis, Stockhausen, etc.
simply because I'm compelled to. And I'd say the same applies to others.


> Please explain what in the world is "visceral appeal"........?????

Well, I guess it's kind of the opposite of intellectual. Something body
oriented. It referes to the viscera meaning "internal organs collectively
(especially those in the abdominal cavity)".
A good definition I found is "derived from or prompted by a natural
tendency; "an intuitive perception""


> What I was trying to say, was the despite the fact that Braxton, Taylor,
> Redman, Muhal Abrams  and many others created  highly "non-instant
> gratifying music"they were always labeled as jazz, which meant very little
> academic support for their creation..... meaning they spent most of their
> livelihoods fighting for space in the pop/jazz field.

I read a funny story once in an interview with Braxton in which he said
that he once ran into Wynton Marsalis (trad jazz Nazi/ hater of the
avant-garde, for those who don't know) at an airport and went up to him
and thanked him for telling people that his (Braxton's) music isn't jazz.


> I'm referring to sound , the ultimate object of our discussion , in terms of
> pure sound , rap has some of the most daring and adventure soundscapes
> ever created, ..don't you think??

Well, no. Haven't you ever heard musique concrete ?
I think some of the work the Bomb Squad did with Public Enemy is very
daring, and brilliant, but relatively speaking it's not that daring.


Andrei