Re: [microsound] about samples

[Ant Weiss <antonv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I actually feel sampling is becoming a less complex subject each day. All
the talks of legal aspect have lead to nothing - the aestehtics and the
technology grows and develops ignoring the law, so in the end the law has to
adapt to the new condition.
and that;s exactly what I feel - now, when sampling and remixing is not new,
provocative, sub-cultural anymore, when it becomes institutionalized and
mainstreamized, will the new aesthetic reject it, and make a claim for the
new orginality?


----- Original Message -----
From: "pizo meyer" <admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [microsound] about samples


>
> Beleive me..I'm for creating your own music, I dont use sample cds or
other artist "track loops" (i.e.records or cd's) there's very little
creativity in that. But If I cut a 16th note of a bass sound, change the
octave, filter and generate a new sequence, I personally dont have a problem
with it..but that's just me! Other artist do insist on creating all their
own sounds which is great! I agree We defintely need to rethink the term "
REMIX " I think sampling will always be a complex subject, and we haven't
even touched the legal aspect.
>
> cheers
>
>  Ant Weiss wrote:
> I have to agree - the postmodernist thought has
> totally destroyed the idea of originality - we all know that it's enough
to
> draw a moustache on
> Mona Lisa, to call her your own.
> But hten, if the notion that we're now entering
> a new (call it post-digital, post-post-modern, whatever) phase - should we
> rethink the remix
> aesthetics once again ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "scissors for sparrow"
> To: "microsound"
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [microsound] about samples
>
>
> >
> > >for the musician on the list: do you try to use only "self-made"
> > >sounds or do you steal them? and what do you steal?
> >
> > have you heard of plunderphonics?
> >
> > it's also interesting to think of this argument in marxian terms -- how
> > 'ownership' can be attached to an independent object, and how far
removed
> > one can be from one's own sound; conversely, how individuals can claim
> > cultural artifacts as their own shared pool of resources.
> >
> > i used to be dogmatically opposed to taking sound from any source not
> > (originally) created by myself with my own hands. then it became clear
> > that there are no such clear boundaries as to 'mine' or 'yours', and it
> was
> > more important how you approached an intended outcome anyway.
> >
> >
> > enough natter from me.
> >
> >
> > -------------s->s.
> >
> >
> > http://home.pacific.net.au/~transmit
> >
> >
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> >
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