Re: [microsound] Re:ambient books

[dbuchwald <dagmar.buchwald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, I see.  Reminds me of concrete and visual poetry; I think Richard
Kostelanetz once edited a book called "Text-Sound-Texts," a compilation of
texts trying to cross the borders to music and graphical art.  Still
interesting.

Dagmar

chmafu nocords wrote:

> The overlapping of different layers (of written language) would produce
> graphical art.
> See this example: http://www.nocords.net/maru/eyes/gallery/Beat.jpg
> It is a "poem" I made many years ago (on a typewriter as you can see). I
> think it is an interesting mixture of poetry, music and art and can be
> interpreted as or translated to either, or any combination of them......
>
> maru
>
> chmafu nocords
> www.nocords.net
>
> > maybe that would be a different thread altogether, but moving a little
> > bit away from the notion of "ambient" and more towards the notion of
> > "texture" then books like Lucy Church Amiably by Gertrude Stein might be
> > mentioned (although she was originally rather inspired by painting) --
> > texts that evacuate language of sense and draw attention to the texture
> > of composition.  Almost impossible to read from cover to cover but
> > something to dive into at any point and then watch how the textures
> > expand and contract, new motifs drifting in, others petering out..  Or --
> > thinking about loops -- something like Modular Poetry by Dick Higgins
> > which permutates words and phrases in a looplike fashion, like a mantra.
> > Sometimes it is a closed system -- that is, a fixed number of words or
> > phrases are simply permutated according to a set of rules -- as did
> > Oulipo in France, sometimes it builds up and expands.  What you never get
> > though is the real overlapping of loops, or the overlapping of rhythms
> > creating a virtual third rhythm or moiré, as Gregrory Bateson descibed
> > it; something Steve Reich did with his "Music for eighteen musicians".
> > What I mean to say is: there are books -- not really ambient but rather
> > modular, loopy, texturous -- achieving a musical quality.  They are
> > certainly not linear.  But what they cannot get at is the overlapping of
> > different layers or strands -- at least not in silent reading.
> >
>
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