Re: [microsound] mp3 label practicalities, ogg impracticalities

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The other problem with Ogg is that, because it's not as standard, it's
more likely that some people won't be able to play the files. The first
time I put Oggs on my site, some of them were unplayable by people with
Macs, no matter what software they used. I've since given up and now use
mp3's instead because I want people to actually hear the stuff on my
label. It doesn't help that Windows Media Player doesnt support Oggs and
Winamp only does so through a plugin. Apple refuses to incorporate Ogg's
into QT6. You can (politely) ask Apple to change their mind by going
here:

http://qtcomponents.sourceforge.net/applefeedback.php

But I'm sticking with mp3 for now until reliable Ogg players are
available for every platform.

ph

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<-----Original Message----->
> 
>From: Soren Goodman
>Sent: 23/11/2002 10:42:58 AM
>To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [microsound] mp3 label practicalities
>
>Speaking of which...why use mp3's or especially RA's when there are
>ogg's? Ogg vorbis is free and open source, is supported by winamp and I
>think macamp (?) and best of all, it makes much higher quality files
>much smaller than mp3. Even smaller than variable bitrate mp3...
>
>Check out this study for a blind test comparison between ogg and other
>formats:
>http://www.infoanarchy.org/story/2002/9/8/23472/23921
>
>The only real problem with ogg is that it's not streamable... and it is
>currently supported on any portable player, true, but the ogg people
are
>in talks with some hardware manufacturers, and since it's free to use
it
>seems likely that they'll all support ogg soon enough...
>
>
>S
>
>* vadim sprikut wrote (Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 04:54:17PM -0800):
> 
> another question regarding your mp3/cd-r labels: do most of you use
> mp3 as the format for audio content (esp. for samples of longer
> works)? i run across a fair amount of sites that still use Realaudio,
> which i cant stand. i had to uninstall it because of its intrusiveness
> and because it impaired my OS (win2k). 
> 
> the main tradeoff is file size...a number of people have commented on
> the lack of bandwith and how expensive it can get. it seems like for
> many people, this is more a labor of love than any kind of financial
> venture so RA would be more efficient that way; at least thats the
> impression i get from visiting various sites.
> 
> v'

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