Re: [microsound] paris [OT]

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Hi micros! I=B4ll be in Paris for 5 days next month..I=B4d really appreciate
recommendations, suggestions, record-book shops, interesting events, etc..
or everything you like about the city.

you can mail-me offlist, of course.

thx in advance!

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el 25/11/02 04:27, eva-revox en eva-revox@xxxxxxx escribi=F3:

> hey neil,
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> if you're around, you should pass by WAVE recordshop where i'm currently
> working (but only once or twice a week). There's a few independent stores
> worth visiting such as BIMBO TOWER, L'OEIL DU SILENCE or KATAPULT. There'=
s
> not that many interesting venues - sadly the Batofar is about to close - =
,
> but there's more and more small art spaces, which allow curious people to
> see small concerts, performances or installations. It seems like there's
> more and more interest towards electronic music in the realm of contempor=
ary
> art, giving more and more grants to music related projects - sometimes a
> little overhyped and fake, cause most of the mundane art world has no clu=
e
> of what underground is about, but is at last half-opening its doors -  an=
d
> we don't wanna "spit in the soup", do we ??
> Herv=E9 owns a very fine label, as great others like Deco and Evenement.
> Keep in mind those names:  SOGAR, DISCOM, TEAMTENDO, PORT RADIUM, VICNET,
> EXCH POP TRUE, GEL, KAP BAMBINO, BEFFROI, VS_PRICE, B.I.A.S., MY JAZZY
> CHILD, ERICH ZAHN, DDAMAGE, ORGAN, NOAK KATOI, O.LAMM, HYPO, FEADZ,
> OCTET,CRASH NORMAL, ULTRA MILKMAIDS, CEDRIC PIGOT, VINCENT EPPLAY... they=
're
> all part (well,some way or another, even if they sound totally different,
> which means  you can't really pack them in tha same lucky bag) of an
> expanding scene w/ plenty of interesting newcomers - it builds up slowly =
but
> surely, and it seems more and more open-minded and interconnected, from t=
he
> most fucked-up experimental noise to the sweet and sour digipop, without
> neglecting so-called IDM and concrete music (as the important output of
> METAMKINE in grenoble). i think it's very positive to make that kind of
> correlation - working with people out of contemporary dance, performance =
or
> conceptual art, perverted (beautified?) w/ a healthy dose of punkish
> spontaneity.=20
> [Maybe we  just need more artists and less ART, as well as a more creativ=
e
> use of technology rather than technology for the sake of it.
> Not a statement, just a personal opinion...]
> There's a huge techno/breakcore related scene as well, for the best and
> (more often) the worst. I bet too there's quite a few unknown
> electro-acoustic composers lying in the dark somewhere, slapping themselv=
es
> every morning w/ some old recording of Boulez.
> As a resume, i think you should just meet the right people to introduce y=
ou
> to that small world, that doesn't need to mention Deleuze every 2 seconds=
 to
> make great music.
> check as well that amazing festival for headphones that take place in a
> parisian flat every summer: http://placard5.dokidoki.fr/
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> what else can i say ??? well...welcome !!!
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> +++
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> le 25/11/02 2:24, neil@xxxxxxxxxxxx =E0 neil@xxxxxxxxxxxx a =E9crit=A0:
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>> On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, listinfo wrote:
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>>> for neil@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> hi neil,
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>>> the response of bastien is not really actual and pertinent i think it's
>>> because he don't live in paris .
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>> this is what I thought I dint take it seriously so no need to worry
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>>> about the scene there's a pretty big avant pop electronic music with ac=
tive
>>> suspension/clapping music, i create a label last year called List
>>> http://www.list-en.com, who's just released Sogar "stengel" cd and will
>>> release the Mou, Lips ! "peanuts..." in january .
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>> cool this is good to hear since Im a music maker, its always important f=
or
>> there to be local label support for local music.
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>>> the venues is another thing, the batofar will be closed in late decembe=
r,
>>> beaubourg or fondation cartier are not really music oriented places,
>>> concerts are more ponctual .
>>> there's some gallery where you can make concerts like the purple instit=
ute
>>> or console from time to time .
>>> i really hope that le palais de tokyo will remake concerts ( they stop =
for
>>> security problem or i think because of the politics of the new governme=
nt
>>> who don't care a lot about this kind of culture).
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>> thats to bad as I like to play out often and I equally like to put on
>> shows... looks like I would have to make friends with people in teh art
>> galleries... is the who run the purple institute originally candians?
>> there was this interesting gallery/artist co-op in toronto canada 10 yea=
rs
>> ago or maybe longer by that same name and the people who ran it
>> disappeared. I wounder if this is people who I know.
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>>> yes, life is expensive in paris but less than in new york or london for=
 sure
>>> .
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>> this is good to hear, I heard that its cheaper then london whicb is good
>> to hear. Im living in Montreal right now and life is very cheap so this =
is
>> all part of my dission making process...
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>>> the national front is a cancer for france but i think this is one we ca=
n
>>> kill, a big majority of french are totally opposed to them and more in =
paris
>>> than in the rest of france, excuse me but i don't think that georges.w.=
bush
>>> is a lot better than le pen who is not president or even in the french
>>> parliament !
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>> this is true but Im not american, I live in canada and find both le pen
>> and bush to be sad excuses for political leaders... as for the NF at ela=
st
>> your telling me that there is oposition to this cancer... as being of
>> jewish background does not play very favorbly in the eyes of NF members.=
..
>> ;)
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>>> for a 20 m3 in the center of paris, you will pay 450-500 euros ( 1 doll=
ar is
>>> around  0,80 euro now), you can't be payed under 900 euros a month, a c=
offe
>>> is around 2 euros etc...
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>> how much is transportation, like a monthly metro pass or bus pass?
>> is there places to live that are in waling distence from the center of
>> paris that are not to costly?
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>>> there's a good social system too .
>>> it depends on what you expect in france but you can live well with 1400=
-1500
>>> euros .
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>> 1500 euros is living well meaning what exactly?
>> does that mean, this pays my rent and expensis and I never have money to
>> do any thing or does 1500 a month mean I can do things, go to a gig,
>> dinner or buy a cd every so often?
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>> thanks for the info
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>> neil
>> aka naw
>> www.noisefactroyrecords.com
>> www.pieheadrecords.com
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>>> best wishes
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>>> herv=E9 / List
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