Re: [microsound] cultural uses / Undirected sound

["simon k" <nil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> From: "dennis mcnulty"

> ...  you could create a
> constantly evolving sonic texture. ...

> ... The world is full of constant audio streams which
> could be manipulated in realtime using various strategies
> to provide an evolving soundworld (not necessarily always
> 'good'  but hopefully always interesting).

    nice dennis .. I think it would be a great way to watch TV ..

      //

    I was thinking of this type of technique in office environments
    where you have computer noises, air-conditioning, people
    talking, photocopiers .. etc . etc

    you live'loop this sound back at itself with a mixture of phase
    reversals / filters to create a quieter environment .   containing
    all the original sounds ..

    self muting / self mixing / remixing  sound environments

    obviously you could reverse the process .         . and increase
    the amount or 'style of environmental noise . you could take a
    live feed from you local swimming pool . anything

    I am always looking for practical uses for music and sound .

    many of the concepts/ideas/music I read about on this list
    are heavily abstracted from popular living . yet use sounds
    and inspiration from our modern world .

    alot of the 'music talked about on this list will never be on a
    popular radio station . you don't eat soup with chop sticks .

    but I think of a future where the concepts shared here have
    much broader uses than performance or audio indulgence ..

    creating sound 'foundations for environments onto which the
    naturally occurring sounds can be best regarded/disregarded

      //

     I could be wrong . but there is a lot of technical trickery
     developed . around these parts . and a audio understanding
     that is outside the convention . . these elements and all the
     related trappings will have a future exponential to today ..

     .simon

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----- Original Message -----
From: "dennis mcnulty" <u_mack@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [microsound] Undirected music

> I have programmed an MSP patch to do something similar to this. It was
> inspired to a certain extent by Cages 'Imaginary Landscape No. 4'.
>
> The patch consists of a number of identical modules which occasionally
> (pseudo-randomly) trap fragments of audio from an incoming audio stream.
> These audio fragments have a random amount of silence appended to them and
> this audio/slience fragment is then looped. This looping audio is faded up
> from silence and down to silence again over a period of time which is also
> selected pseudo-randomly.
>
> The output of several of these looping modules (my CPU would only allow 4)
> are then mixed together. The range of 'randomness' for the various factors
> was adjustable.
>
> So by feeding any audio stream into this 'patch', you could create a
> constantly evolving sonic texture. The amount of silence in the resultant
> stream is adjustable (to an extent). Its kind of like granulation, but too
> sparse and lumpy (??)
>
> I tried it with a number of audio streams, but it worked best (in my
> opinion) with TV. I would turn on the TV and feed the audio thru the patch
> whicl watching the images. The result was like a really incredible
> deconstruction of the program audio. Detaching the audio from the images
> made it possible to hear the various sonic components again ... speech, FX
,
> music. I never realised how much coughing there was in an episode of
'Murder
> She Wrote' !!
>
> I have applied the patch to music, and have had some interesting results.
It
> seems to work best on music without percussion (to my ears).
>
> I've probably wandered off topic a bit, but I could see this discussion
> wandering into an area that really interests me. The world is full of
> constant audio streams which could be manipulated in realtime using
various
> strategies to provide an evolving soundworld(not necessarily always 'good'
> but hopefully always interesting). Like webmixing (??) but more
> algorithmic/automatic.
>
> d.
>
>
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>
> >.... i think there are allot of people working with this idea,
>
>
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>
>    one day I would like to think we could use undirected
>    music to replace background music in public spaces
>    like shopping malls or airports and other places they
>    play continuous music
>
>
>
>    .simon
>
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