Re: [microsound] mp3 redux

["walrus and the carpenter" <chewybach@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 I find the similarity of mp3 filesharing to the ealry 80's cable tv piracy
of movies and content when the industry handed over tons of free content to
the cable companies. They found a way to succeed and work things out,  i
really don't understand why they can't now. There's nothing all that special
about filesharing or  even terrible for that matter. But in a commons such
as the internet or the highway no one really can decide how the roads are
made in order to further profits or gain exclusive control.
I collect vinyl records...the stuff these majors don't give a crap about.
You know you can find a genesis record down at the fleamarket for 50 cents
so why not just download the album. The whole idea of copyright for lifetime
is antithetical to the original intent of copyright in the first place...to
insure that the new idea was rewarded for up to 7 years and that the
expiration in itself would compel the creator to create more or better ideas
based upon or going beyond previous works. I have to really think the
constituional writers here in America hit the nail right on the head.
What's happening right now with regards to progress and copyright is that a
small minority of  conservative lawyer businessmen are profiting off of
ideas that were never their creation to begin with. Using legal and
political means to create monoply over content and access to distribution in
a closed market. I would have to hire a lawyer in order to play this
artistic trap game of becoming a successful artist in this climate. I
shouldn't have to though.
 People that download pay for harddrives, cd-r's, computers, proper audio
equipment and most importently access to high bandwith for $50.00 a month.
There are hidden taxes in all of these items that go directly into the
businessmen's hands of record companies. If sales are going down then they
should feel completely responsible for neglect of quality and substance of
content and lay off the fans that pay to see there favorite artists perform.
A recording can never really replicate the real thing of being surrounded by
people in a club or a quiet cafe to hear an artist in person and shake hands
with an artist, complimenting their work. I've been a believer of this for
over a decade with regard to music...i love being there.

To close i must say that cable tv or internet that allows you choice over
content is far more valuable to an open society than a one way environment
that allows no interaction. People would be crazy to  neglect interaction
and communication to allow a government to have total control over all
content...they should feel just the same with regard to business that wants
total control over the content that artists have created throughout all
time. There are many fields that have progressed where content is free,
Einstein's e=mc2 is completely free for any of us to use, just as the roads
were not built to run only GM cars. I'm all for copyright but more than 7
years is counterproductive and will continue to create filesharing to spite.
Software i would say should be even less maybe 3 years. Progress should be
the aim of copyright law not the opposite. If you care about the artists
then support indies in all aspects whether it has to do with music, movies
and software.
j.peterson
----- Original Message -----
From: "jan.l" <jl@xxxxxxx>
To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [microsound] mp3 redux

> in your world anyone (including the bigcos) can do whatever they want with
> anything they happen to fancy.
>
> I would suggest that you start by changing the general economic system
> rather than just saying that someone else (the artists) should abide by
> different rules & laws than everone else.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ph!L @ c e n t i b e l" <hellomynameisphil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [microsound] mp3 redux
>
>
> > >> but did you steal those mp3:s or had the artists decided to make them
> > >> available for download as promotion?
> > >>
> > >> there is a world of difference.
> > >
> > >not if both scenarios result in the purchase of said CD...your
> > conjecture is
> > >true only if you do not buy a CD...
> >
> > But I think the real question is who gets to decide how music is
> > distributed. The OP's implication seems to be that musicians should have
> > absolute say over everything that happens to their music. But to me, the
> > idea that the author should have absolute control over culture seems a
> > bit, pardon the pun, authoritarian. Speaking as an author myself, I feel
> > like there should be a process of negotiation between producers and
> > audience regarding the flow of cultural wealth.
> >
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