"Everybody wants to be a fascist": Trolling for Flame Wars + a few neat links

["tobias c. van Veen" <tobias@xxxxxxxxx>]

dear goga,

You wrote to Phil,

"ph!L (why not just phil? not so cool? a nn fetish?), your argumentation
ability is a delight. it is because of people like you who reduce an
argument to an inane 5-word phrase that this list is as it is. so
politically correct, so technocratic, so obedient to the great conductor
kim cascone...why don't you just accept that there are people who don't
follow microsound's party rules and still wish to be here to express their
views once in a while?"

The fact of the matter is, you don't have any views. So far, you are simply
a blackhole of negativity. You've offered the list nothing. As F=E9lix
Guattari said, "Everybody wants to be a fascist." Your "view" is that you
can have a "view" imposed on others.

Meanwhile, when some have debated various issues--for example, I recently
and flagrantly posted an article on Mike Shannon's album that also takes
issue with a few theorisations of Cascone's in a manner of polite &
respectful debate--you've completely ignored it, instead choosing to
continue a ridiculous and inane erasure of the majority of the list's
members. You don't make yourself look very pretty in the international
spotlight.

You're not nearly as interesting as nn, either: at least it/they/she had
something to say, at times. If you really have some "alternative views,"
let's hear them: not your complaints.

Here's the link again, because I think it's interesting and I would like to
offer it to the list for debate:

http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/72

Some may also find this interesting, at least on the topic of "writing
around sound" vis-=E0-vis Kodwo Eshun vs. the generalised "rock critic's"
preference for "judgement" and "clarity":

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3D1637

There's also this fascinating net.art project against the war here:

http://offline.area3.net/wartime/

-tV

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