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Re: [microsound] OT See men shredded, then say you don't back war
fgrecs@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>Fine. I'm being rough with you because I've been following this thread
>for awhile and it's finally irritated me so much that I had to make a
>point. To make this VERY clear, I am attacking those who support the
>mush and blather, NOT YOU PERSONALLY!!! If this isn't good enough for
>you, then deal with it.
>
OK, I will.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
I don't consider you being "rough" with me, tough guy, just a little
sloppy, intellectually that is.
>but you have to understand realpolitik.
>
Oh I think I have a good handle on that one.
> I
>recall someone slandering Joe as being "either naïve or stupid."
>
OK, the "stupid" part was unnecessary. I think it's very clear that
sanctions punish civilians not leaders. The evidence is obvious by this
point.
> It is
>my opinion that it is the left that behaves in this way. Pipe dreams
>are not what builds a government.
>
No. Nor do dreams built from wielding pipes.
>I did not know you were a resident of the US. Then you have a right to
>make any comment you wish. If you are not, then you don't know squat
>about this place.
>
I'm an American but not currently an American resident. But your second
argument is invalid. It's the genetic fallacy. Being from a place and
knowing about it are too different things. One person who had some of
the best insights on the US was Toqueville.
>So the rule, "He who has the power has the gold, and he who has the gold
>has the power." The fathers weren't ready for it, but the framework was
>there to include EVERYONE. Spare me that votes don't matter. Democrats
>just can't handle that they lost the presidency. Lincoln didn't get the
>popular vote, either, and I think the country ended up doing well under
>his leadership in the long run.
>
Non-Democrat democrats can't handle it that America is a republic all
the while pretending to be a democracy. The ends justifying the means
is a specious argument.
>
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