Re: [microsound] concept queens vs. kings of folk

[Thanos Chrysakis <carillon@xxxxxxxxxx>]

on 2/9/03 2:13 am, john saylor at saylor@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> hi
> 
>>>>>> 'The quantity of intelligence carried by the sounds must be the
>>>>>> true criterion of the validity of a particular music.'
>>>> - Iannis Xenakis
> 
> ( 03.08.25 19:40 +0100 ) Thanos Chrysakis:
>> I believe it's better not to separate intelligence and emotion.
>> Spinoza has taught us something like that.
>> Mind-body dualism is rather obsolete after him!
> 
> i think the zen guys were there before him ['enlightenment is an
> intuitive and not solely intellectual process']. maybe because i've been
> reading the suzuki lectures, but the idea that intellect is supreme
> doesn't ring so true for me anymore.
>

...yes I'm aware of that!
I respect eastern thought but I always keep in my mind that I am a child of
the so called west. what we can say of the intuitions of the pre-socratic
thinkers...

I am not
fond in the game western vs. eastern thinking as I'm conceived
that they have a lot of similarities and they are overlapping
in many ways even in their differences. I mentioned Spinoza
because he has spoken extensively on intellect & mind & intuition.

Furthermore, Spinoza addresses many-many more things than that.
just to cheer up a 'Zen haikou' from Spinoza:

The human mind is part of the infinite intellect of God  [where God let's
put Nature]  

> i like thinking, and music that i can think about; but the music i come
> back to has more to it than intellect- there's something i can
> intuitively appreciate about it too.

Even thinking can be intuitive! It depends the thinking...

Cheers
Thanos

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