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an import which the creator may even reject.   =20

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From: Torben Sangild [mailto:sangild@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:57 PM
To: 'microsound'
Subject: SV: Re: [microsound] no OS

Understanding art and music is not about understanding the person who =
made
it. An artwork often has a political import which the creator was not
conscious of. There is no mystery about that.

Torben

---trommer wrote----

...it seems to me that any act can be pigeonholed into some sort of =
agenda
by an outside observer, regardless of what the perpetrator's actual =
motives
were...

perhaps this is the case...i'm not sure, but it does make me sort of
nervous...it seems that this is a methodology that is commonly used by
repressive governments to rid themselves of competing
ideologies...personally, i find it very strange/disturbing to have some =
sort
of political agenda grafted onto my work or to have something that's
personal and non-ideological suddenly thrust into a political context by =
an
outsider.

i remember reading an article in 'arts' magazine a while back...they =
were
discussing an artist who had traditionally been viewed as 'political'; =
they
were interviewing a fellow artist/friend of the person in question =
(sorry, i
can't remember any specific details right now - may have been philip
guston)...anyway...the friend commented on the fact that he found it =
funny
that the artist's style/imagery had been attributed to socio-political
motives, when in fact the imagery arose from a much more mundane and
quotidian source...something to the effect of: 'if people could see what =
he
saw outside of his window every day they would understand where the =
artist
came from a lot better'...

> That IS politics. tV
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> (Moreover, a lot of OS-ers are open Libertarians).
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> >> The interesting part of the open source community is not its =
politics,
> >> but the do it yourself, stick your fingers in the pie, deeply =
inclusive
> >> collaboration of it all.
> > Isn't that its politics?
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> > hmmm...
> >=20
> > Simon.
> >=20
> > =
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