Re: [microsound] haunted weather

[Julian Knowles <julianknowles@xxxxxxx>]

On Friday, April 23, 2004, at 05:48  PM, David Newman wrote:

> the unanswered part as always refers to the context of NOW

OK, so in what ways do you think that the context [of now] has changed 
since the 1940s and 50s? If we think about it, these ideas were 
initially investigated in a post-phonographic world and although 
electronic music was a somewhat young discipline, it existed and 
therefore the implications of it were very well understood 
(particularly in relation to the 'sonic object').

I would agree that a re-investigation might be necessary if the 
fundamental condition of composition had changed, but I'm not sure i 
can see that, or should I say I'm not sure I can readily see any 
changes which would cause a backtracking or revision of the idea of 
allsound as music. The question seemed to assume that music was 
something other than allsound, or that this was, in fact, a new or 
radical proposition.

Then again, the publisher might have written the ad blurb and the 
author might well be wincing!!

> TIME mean that
> this is a fluid state

and the flux has taken us where in relation to this question? This 
relates to my opening question in this post. I'm interested in how you 
think things might have changed, other than the fact that composers 
have died and a new generation is around now. This,  in itself,  is no 
guarantee of new thinking or revisionist practices. Furthermore, I'm 
not sure we need to re-investigate every idea once per generation, 
unless we have the intention of arriving at radically different 
conclusions or aesthetic positions.

I guess I am after specifics at the risk of coming across like i am not 
satisfied with any response.


>  - The aim is not to have answers - the aim is to
> always be questioning and therefore open to discovery and not closed 
> to what
> is around us.

I am very open and keen to debate the specifics of this question (and 
do not want to appear otherwise). First of all, however, I would like 
someone to put forward a theory as to how we have backtracked from the 
notion of allsound as music, such that a fresh enquiry is needed into 
this idea. This would provide some interesting points for debate.

Of course, most of this make have nothing to do with the book!!!!

cheers

Julian


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