RE: [microsound] OT - Draft by 2005

["Rudolph A. Carrera" <fgrecs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with dragging Cheney (and Buchanan and a few others) out in uniform)
and serving time.  It is the realm of the coward that they ducked out.  But
for you to insult National Guardsmen sounds utterly idiotic (NOTE, BILL: I'M
NOT CALLING -YOU- IDIOTIC). 

You give non-American residents a ridiculous picture of what life is like in
the States.  Abu Ghraib is a blip on the screen to most Americans.  And, I'm
willing to bet, to most Iraqis.  The only ones really jumping up and down
for this are Saddam Loyalists, Communists and their sympathizers, and the
kooky fringes of Arab society.  That's a shame.  Those who will be punished
will be punished for dereliction.  What they did, however, does not even
come close to qualifying as "torture."

And to say the army is disproportionately represented by African-Americans
is hogwash.  Whites still represent the bulk, and Hispanics sign up
voluntarily as a general rule.  If they'd stay in school, they wouldn't
really have to.  And I say this as a teacher who works mainly with
minorities (since I've returned from Macedonia).

Best,

Rudy

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Ashline [mailto:ashline@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:20 PM
To: microsound
Subject: Re: [microsound] OT - Draft by 2005

Right.  The argument that Rangel is making has to do with the
disproportion of representation of African Americans in the armed
forces.  If the draft is instituted universally, the army won't any
longer be a club of the poor and the lower working class (read: easy
scapegoats for events like Abu Ghraib).  But Bush has different
reasons for want to reinstitute it.  He needs more bodies to cover his
ass in a military operation that has turned into a national disaster
and led to complete anarchy in an occupied country.  Like Gabriel
Kolko, I'd almost like to see him reelected now so that he can
continue his path of self-apocalypse, isolate the US internationally,
and destroy the republican party (the fascist wing of the corporate
class) for a few generations.  It's becoming a beautiful thing to
behold actually:  imperial racism on display everyday in the papers
and on TV for the entire world to see and no rocks for the
perpetrators to crawl under.  A beautiful essay this week by Slavoj
Zizek on all of this:

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/what_rumsfeld_doesnt_know_that
_he_knows_about_abu_ghraib/

"among other things, eliminates higher education as a
shelter "

time for Dick Cheney to pay his debt to society now.  And no National
Guard for Dubya, either  :-)
On Sat, 22 May 2004 12:11:59 -0700, Rudolph A. Carrera
<fgrecs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott;
> 
> That's not entirely true.  A congressman from New York, Democrat Charlie
> Rangel, was the one who had been asking for this.  He's a bit of a raving
> liberal, and apparently feels that if the draft happens, it will scare
> America's youth into voting Bush out.  Normally, my opinion of liberal
> lunatics such as Rangel is pretty low, but he sounds just like Jackie
> Gleason when he talks.  No way in hell I can hate a guy who sounds like
> that.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rudy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scott allison [mailto:lipistal3@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:52 AM
> To: microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [microsound] OT - Draft by 2005
> 
>
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?alertid=5834001&content_di
> r=ua_congressorg
> 
> Really only of interest to those in the United States, but apprently Bush
is
> 
> working to reinstate the draft by spring 2005.
> 
> Scott
> 
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