Re: [microsound] Re: us citizens... (OT)

[chthonic <chthonic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>>>Many political acts on the part of these "conservatives" are 
>>>actually meant to undo such gains as reproductive rights, 
>>>environmental protections, social programs, etc. and this 
means 
>>>they are moving back to a previous state prior to the 
establishment 
>>>of these progressive programs.


>>I think perhaps that these things are not seen as "gains" to 
those 
>>who oppose them. On the contrary some of these thigs are 
seen as 
>>further evidence of a "moral decay" in society, and social 
programs 
>>as the intrusion of government on the "free market".


>Nevertheless these are results of the progressive movement in 
the 
>20th century. An attempt to undo them is an attempt to revert to an 
>earlier social condition and is therefore a regressive trend.


i think it really depends on the point of view.  because you believe 
the opposite does not make your version the truth, any more than 
theirs is.

to conservatives, they are not regressing as opposed to liberals' 
progressing; they are simply trying to change the sway of things 
from one way (not theirs) to another (their way).  

even more likely, they believe *they* are simply stopping the 
aforementioned "moral decay", which they would see as 
regressive or destructive; in their eyes, they are the progressives 
because they are attempting to lift mankind up to its highest peak, 
while liberals want to allow everything to be debased and 
degraded.

a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages is not a 
reversion to an earlier social condition; thus, those supporting 
such a thing can claim it is progressive.  

i hope it's clear from my words i'm not saying this is correct or that i 
agree with it, just hypothesizing and trying to understand the way 
such minds work.


d.

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