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Re: [microsound] beauty



Would it help if we thought of beauty in terms of "rightness" rather than some specifically aesthetic quality? In other words, if what defined the quality of an artwork were its adequation to its time, its "now-ness"?

certainly any and all qualitative judgements are exclusive of whatever doesn't fit into them, but then personally at least i feel that there's nothing wrong with adopting a judgemental position as far as the value of a work is concerned.

after all, none of us value everything to the same degree

(i hope...)

christos

Bill Ashline wrote:

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:29:13 +0100, 4brendax@xxxxxxxxxx
<4brendax@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote



I think also that one of the main elements that make this disc exciting
is that it expresses beauty, and goes beyond a rational idea of aesthetics.
i think also that one of the most recurrent peculiarities of experimental
electronica, especially in the last period of time, is that it is highly
conceptual. so conceptual that many times experimentation does not leave
room to beauty (and not aesthetics).
it's a big topic, but don't you think that beauty still deserves a primary
role, intended as an harmonic objective in the musical piece of art production
experience?



Well, it really depends on how we define "beauty," Eva. To some, the very idea of an experimental/conceptual/"unbeautiful" (in a certain generally accepted sense) musical production is for some listeners rather "beautiful" even if it isn't for you. The notion of the beautiful as the ultimate aim of aesthetic inquiry was found to be too limiting for many twentieth century aestheticians and composers/improvisers to cover what people could do with sound. the aesthetics of microsound might not always be considered beautiful according to some people (in fact quite ugly in some cases--sine waves for example--though I happen to love them), but even then microsound is no less of an "aesthetic" strategy and approach, even if one finds little personal satisfaction in some of the productions.

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