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Re: [microsound] [ot] development environment



I use Pure Data exclusively for live performance, installations and recording, but it is something of a rabbit hole once you fall in. CSound is ancient, and not meant for realtime at all. SuperCollider is neat, powerful, and a step deeper into the learning curve than a graphical environment like PD or Max/MSP [but more suited to realtime DSP in its own way]. If you are really worried about platform, the PD would be a better choice, as it is available for windoze, OSX, Linux, and Irix. If you are seriously concerned about platfrom, however, you might investigate Linux as an architecture-independent solution. In the end I found the benefits of Linux outweighed the lerning curve immensely.

In short, my advice would be to check out PD on whatever platform you dig. Get on the mailing list and ask a bizillion questions, caiuse that's the only way you'll learn anything. Once you run into dead ends with the realtime, learn to optimize PD better or start playing with SuperCollider. The stuff you learned from PD will only help, as PD is *far* better at data-flow processing than SC. Then install Linx on every piece of hardware you have and really go to town ;-) In fact, the best option would be to combine PD+SC on Linux via OSC, or maybe even build a sweet interface in Java or Proce55ing.

good luck and see you on the frequency again soon,
d.


david golightly wrote:
hello list,
i'm slowly becoming disillusioned with Csound - my first real development platform - because of its poor real-time performance. i'm ready to learn a new language, then. i'd like to use max/msp but can't afford it (i KNEW i never should have graduated from school!). so i'd like some feedback, offlist if you prefer: supercollider and puredata seem to be the best two choices. which should i learn first? what have you used? what would you avoid? what has the best all-around learning curve/power of control tradeoff? how about live performance? (no pricey commercial software please!) i'm using an 800mhz windoze xp desktop pc and an 300mhz ibook so anything that runs on both platforms would be ideal.


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