Re: [microsound] essay on TWiki site

[jeff gburek <tsazmaniac@xxxxxxxxx>]

If anything, Adorno was overly sensitive
> to the degrading
> cultural conditions that produced the Nazis, which
> is why he was wrong
> about jazz.

i wonder, bill, if this is the problem with those who
read their adorno and write with it in mind, rather
than write/work against it as much as they write/work
against the dominating culture (can we speak of
counter-culture heroism, a kind of follow the leader
dynamic even if attentions are best yet not idiotic
enough?---the tendency to conflate all dominant
culture with the nazist, when the conditions we live
in are quite different. the shadow of newer evils is
falling over us. if the corruption of mind control is
written in at the level of the syllable and the
sentence, at the determination/delimitation of an
object...i do not say it is impossible to criticize,
but that the critique must be supsicious of its own
exertions...all writing is always written in a
different context than when it is read...


--- Bill Ashline <ashline@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:38:55 -0500, Matthew Mitchell
> <matmi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > In those Adorno quotes, there's certainly a
> persistence of attempts to
> > present as fact something that is essentially a
> matter of personal taste, which
> > is ultimately what makes music criticism so
> suspect.
> 
> No.  There's an attempt to read music according to
> its unquestioned
> ideological alignments.  Adorno was far too subtle
> to simply look for
> a justification for his own tastes.  that would be
> an unbelievably
> dumb reading of Adorno.  Adorno was rather looking
> at culture after
> industrial capitalism to interrogate its most
> degrading aspects. 
> We're not talking Stanley Crouch here--we're talking
> a stellar social
> thinker forced into exile during the period of Nazi
> control of
> Germany.  If anything, Adorno was overly sensitive
> to the degrading
> cultural conditions that produced the Nazis, which
> is why he was wrong
> about jazz.  But he wasn't necessarily wrong about
> certain aspects of
> popular culture.  It's easy to forget that jazz was
> a popular form,
> perhaps the preeminent one, when Adorno and
> Horkheimer wrote the
> Dialectic of Enlightenment.
> 
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