RE: [microsound] FOR DISCUSSION...

["W.C.Schrimshaw" <W.C.Schrimshaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

this is something we got onto discussing with Richard Middleton here in 
newcastle.
In a seminar where the term post-vernacular started flying around, as a way of 
talking about music with 
an avant-garde type approach yet not working at the same bourgeoise level as 
the historical avant-garde 
movements which played upon the dualism between dirty popular and serious art 
music, the term 
popped up as a way of side-stepping these issues with strong historical 
resonances.
The point was then made that the popular, of the people, has been hijacked and 
perhaps should be 
reclaimed rather than just running away from this term. clearly 'pop' music 
has a certain aesthetic 
meaning attached to it but why should people be deterred from defining their 
music as popular?


>===== Original Message From Craque <craque@xxxxxxxxxx> =====
>It drives me crazy that popular music has actually become consumerist
>music.
>
>I think we should change the name.
>
>Pop music used to carry an entirely different connotation... I prefer
>to think of it as useful music for the community and 'popular' activity
>that brings society together over class boundaries. It was never the
>Popular Music that garnered a need for money, it used to be the other
>way around; 'Art Music' is where the big bucks were, especially in
>opera and theatre.
>
>Maybe if Capitialism is considered a popular activity that is
>pragmatically useful, the actualization of today's Pop Music makes
>sense (not to me, but probably to the 'Popular Majority'). Everything
>about Popular Music has become appropriated by the manipulation machine
>of the Music Industry. The elements of Pop Music are much more
>interesting to me than the categorization of it being Pop.
>
>On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Peter Price wrote:
>>
>> If the word "pop" is problematic it is perhaps because you are using
>> it problematically. Why can't we just agree that "pop" is short for
>> "popular"  ;)
>
>
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