Re: [microsound] maths science and electronic music

[David Powers <dpowers3@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I have to take issue with this slightly - are these pieces really only
conceptual, or have the conceptual artists who followed decided to
interpret them in that way in order to validate their practices?  My
understanding of 4'33" is that Cage was trying to draw awareness to the
REAL SOUNDS occurring in the auditorium during that time frame, and not
just present a concept.  I won't speak to Duchamp's fountain, except to
say that I'm sure it also could be interpreted as something more than
just a conceptual exercise.  I think Cage, in particular, is given a
very problematic interpretation by the conceptual art crowd, who seem to
miss the fact that he was a great composer, who always kept trying new
things, and who wrote a lot of music that really did work AS MUSIC (not
just concept).  He has a conceptual side, sure, but there's much more to
him.

~David

>>> plugcs_123@xxxxxxxxxxx 04/13/05 05:05AM >>>

I mean can you imagine someone saying, yeah the music is really nothing
but the theory behind it is the lick. I mean thats what 4:33 seconds was
all about, and even Duchamp's fountain. They were both attempts at
eradicating the cult of the thing, in favour of the cult of the
idea....a truly bourgeois move.


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