Re: [microsound] outsider artists

[Richard Whitelaw <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

It is worth bearing in mind that Irwin has done a lot to promote and 
disseminate the work of some of the most marginalised and off the radar 
US musicians - Peter Grudzien, Judson Fountain and R. Stevie Moore 
being good examples.

point 2 is wrong - if you have read his book you will note that while 
he drawn connections between Beefheart and Partch this is not 
judgmental as regards quality of work. Outsider music is not a genre 
but a concept for considering the output of an extremely diverse group 
of musicians, some commercially successful (like Beefheart and Syd 
Barrett) and others less so (Shooby Taylor, Wesley Willis). Concepts of 
good, bad, better and worse tend to become meaningless when discussing 
much of this music.

cheers

Richard


On 26 May 2005, at 19:22, jacob felix heule wrote:

> I'm not really into Irwin Chusid. Two reasons: (1) He looks at his
> subjects with mockery. He talks about Jandek, but only derides him for
> being the worst "musician" ever to attempt making a record. I don't
> think he sees anything in music like that other than a weird cultural
> phenomenon to archive, make fun of, and profit from. (2) He classes
> artists like Harry Partch and Captain Beefheart alongside artists like
> Wesley Willis and Shooby Taylor. There are major differences between
> these two groups, which I think should be clear to anyone here.
>
> jacob
>
> On 5/25/05, ian stewart <artsonics@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > the intrepid diy-music preservationist, Irwin Chusid. He is also, of 
> > course, the
> > author of Songs in the Key of Z: The Curious Universe of Outsider 
> > Music
> > (2000, A Cappella Books).
> --
> http://heule.us
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