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Re: [microsound] outsider artists



Was Todd Dockstoder condsider an "outsider composer".

I think there is a museum in baltimore maryland devoted to "outsider art/ists".

&lt;microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<br>&gt;Subject: Re: [microsound] outsider artists<br>&gt;Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:08:43 -0400<br>&gt;<br>&gt;So the fact that Henry Darger made all of his work in private and <br>&gt;never shared it with any one, or profited from it is now negated <br>&gt;because someone is selling his work? After his death?Just because <br>&gt;his work is a commodity now does not change his main motivation for <br>&gt;creating the work in the first place. Am i following you correctly <br>&gt;here or am i confused?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;aLEKs<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;On May 26, 2005, at 12:21 PM, andrew benson wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;Another problem is the term &quot;outsider artist&quot; was<br>&gt;&gt;created by gallery owners to commodify works made by<br>&gt;&gt;mentally disabled, elderly, or mentally ill artists.<br>&gt;&gt;Grandma Moses was considered an &quot;outsider artist&quot;. If<br>&gt;&gt;you are looking to escape the realms of<br>&gt;&gt;commodification, being an &quot;outsider&quot; is of little to<br>&gt;&gt;no use. Henry Darger's work is now quite commodified.<br>&gt;&gt; Trust me.<br>&gt;&gt;Music as a cultural entity functions very differently<br>&gt;&gt;from visual art. There is less dependence on elite<br>&gt;&gt;establishments to confer status to musicians. It is<br>&gt;&gt;simply a matter of getting heard by various groups.<br>&gt;&gt;Also, you have varying degrees of &quot;inside&quot; with music.<br>&gt;&gt; You can be outside of mainstream pop, but inside of<br>&gt;&gt;the microsound community. The search for the outside<br>&gt;&gt;will simply lead to more insides. Shouldn't we rather<br>&gt;&gt;concern ourselves wih seeking out talent, new ideas,<br>&gt;&gt;and fresh uses of old tools?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>



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