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Re: [microsound] outsider artists
Was Todd Dockstoder condsider an "outsider composer".
I think there is a museum in baltimore maryland devoted to "outsider
art/ists".
<microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><br>>Subject: Re: [microsound] outsider
artists<br>>Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:08:43 -0400<br>><br>>So the
fact that Henry Darger made all of his work in private and <br>>never
shared it with any one, or profited from it is now negated <br>>because
someone is selling his work? After his death?Just because <br>>his work
is a commodity now does not change his main motivation for <br>>creating
the work in the first place. Am i following you correctly <br>>here or
am i confused?<br>><br>>aLEKs<br>><br>><br>>On May 26, 2005,
at 12:21 PM, andrew benson wrote:<br>><br>>>Another problem is the
term "outsider artist" was<br>>>created by gallery owners to
commodify works made by<br>>>mentally disabled, elderly, or mentally
ill artists.<br>>>Grandma Moses was considered an "outsider
artist". If<br>>>you are looking to escape the realms
of<br>>>commodification, being an "outsider" is of little
to<br>>>no use. Henry Darger's work is now quite
commodified.<br>>> Trust me.<br>>>Music as a cultural entity
functions very differently<br>>>from visual art. There is less
dependence on elite<br>>>establishments to confer status to musicians.
It is<br>>>simply a matter of getting heard by various
groups.<br>>>Also, you have varying degrees of "inside" with
music.<br>>> You can be outside of mainstream pop, but inside
of<br>>>the microsound community. The search for the
outside<br>>>will simply lead to more insides. Shouldn't we
rather<br>>>concern ourselves wih seeking out talent, new
ideas,<br>>>and fresh uses of old tools?<br>>><br>
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