Re: [microsound] process and preset [was: Re: [microsound] ovalprocess - Average laptop geek?]

[andrew benson <cloudmachine99@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have to agree here.  I had some friends in art
school try to earnestly make each other's work in an
effort to trick the other students in critique.  It
turned out to be a very difficult task in the end, as
they had to access not only aesthetic elements, but
also conceptual trajectories and process.  The purpose
of relating this anecdote is to demonstrate that a
"preset" is not a pre-fab musician.  It's just a set
of parameters that someone liked.  There's a lot of
this kind of talk among painters.  People are always
against "straight from the tube" colors, but in the
end, if it works, you'll use it.
I'm in the habit of giving my patches to close
friends, mostly out of curiosity.  they are certain to
come up with something that reflects their aesthetics
more than mine.  This discussion reminds me of
Leonardo da Vinci, writing all his notes backwards so
no one can read them.  Why reinvent the wheel every
time you need to make something.

andrew


--- "Mr.D" <craque@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> this discussion reminds me of the
> work of composers like Partch,
> Nancarrow and even Scriabin who
> approached the realization of their
> ideas as problems to be solved.
> 
> while none of them have anything
> to do with electronic music, they
> all took "presets" and used them
> either in new ways or modified to
> fit their needs. the "process" of
> doing this had really nothing to do
> with the work itself, but was 
> essential to its creation.
> 
> the results of these efforts are
> evident in how the piece works,
> how it looks & sounds. i can figure
> out how to make something appear
> a certain way (eg. monolake track)
> without ever using the same tools,
> and at the same time use ALL the
> same presets and never sound
> anything like the original.
> 
> in other words, using tools another
> artist uses does not a chicken make!
> i also dont agree that this is a 
> discussion of ethics; if anything it's
> symantics, because one composer's
> process may include any number
> of "presets", including itself.
> 
> i guess i am firmly in the
> art-speaks-for-itself camp. the
> act of imitation is a natural step
> in the creative process, so i think
> comparing the relative merits of a
> piece based on its origin isnt quite
> fair to the artist or participant,
> though as theory and philosophy
> the creative process remains
> infinitely fascinating.
> 
> matt
> ___
> http://craque.net
> 
>
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Andrew Benson
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