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Re: [microsound] plagiarism



my contemporary touchstone for this is kid606's "down w/the scene" (ipecac, 1999).

tons of attitude and very creative (i still think it is his best).

I think that "right now" plagiarism and appropriation are very commonplace, part of the pallette.

this is due as much to oswald/negativland (and the avant garde side of things) as it is to the influence of public enemy and most hiphop production, as well as the traditions of dancehall (where new vocals are laid over old and/or plagiarised riddims) or dub.

which puts us in a more sensitive situation - is sampling (using that term in general) something we do "because we can" (and it is so easy to do today) or a technique that requires care and understanding (ideally, like all elements of artistic creation). this is especially pertinent given the forum you have posted to - i'm assuming we are all pretty friendly with various dsp suites and softwares and can mash a sample into oblivion - what does this mean about the use of a sample? (esp if all we hear is granulate - convovle - granulate - delay - granulate)

see tim hecker's "my love is rotten to the core" (van halen samples), akufen or crackhaus (millions of samples in a techno/house frame), akira rabelais "Spellewauerynsherde" or opto "2nd" ('found' source material)

also think of some vinyl artists - christan marclay, philip jeck, janek schaefer, otomo yoshihide.......

that should get you going.....

On Jun 3, 2005, at 9:26 AM, sven wrote:

hi list,
i'm currently researching plagaristic music wether microsoundish or not.
when i'm talking about plagiarism i don't mean it in the negative sense
of the word, rather in it's dadaistic/situationistic/neoistic sense as an
approach to break with conventions like the notion of a musician of an
artistic genius and questions like if not also the production of art/music
is rather an social collaborative process than it is original creation.
besides the obvious and well know examples like john oswald, negativeland
and the tape-beatles i'm looking for hints to artists who bundle their plagiarized
music with a strong philosophy of plagiarism/appropriation beyond we-do-because-we-can.


sven.


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