[microsound] old and new was Re: [microsound] Cage's 0'00"

[Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks <andrewduke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

aleks vasic wrote:

> Woah!  Settle down.
>
> Everyone appreciates different things.  There is room for everything 
> on this list if people can grow from the discussions.
>
> Age does not predicate one interest's and ideologies.
>
> Maybe it is a point of reference thing and you assume everyone thinks 
> like you...
>
> aLEKs

I concur, aLEKs.  Also, we need balance ie to appreciate the old *and* 
the new, too.
Additionally, if we don't keep the memory of the old, it gets forgotten 
and that
would be a horrible shame.  I was lucky enough to interview Morton Subotnick
a few years back for my syndicated net/radio show (an example of the "old")
and his zest and vibrancy and interest in the *new* and progressing was 
remarkable
even over a long distance phone line.  I had wanted to talk to him about 
his pioneering
albums from many years back, and we ended up only talking about the 
exciting new
projects he was working on.  Who's to say Cage wouldn't be doing incredible
new things if he were still alive and able? Let's not knock talk of the 
pioneers.
If people are leaving the list because of too much talk of the old, let 
them go, IMO.
Andrew

> On Jun 1, 2005, at 7:04 PM, Oswald Grain wrote:
>
> > cage AGAIN ??? sorry for bad language, but wtf riily ppl,
> > go creat a separate list only for cage and xenaksis.
> > dont you understand here are younger ppl than 40 also,
> > i dont give a s$£@@€ bout cage. but i also dont force you
> > to understand why aphex twin is called the equiwalent of bethohwen in 
> > our time.
> >
> > i am asking where is the world going if ppl like kim cascone and the 
> > like are
> > the great mentors who are teatching others bout microsound and 
> > electronic music
> > only pased on a narrow wiev (cage and the old school ppl). i think 
> > some of you fail to see the new inovative things nowadays and only 
> > discuss the GREAT effects of cages and xenaksis tunes, sure they made 
> > a great effort, but thats soooo long ago, lets discuss what is 
> > happening now... but wait you actually are not able to, because you 
> > live in the past and fail to see the present nor the future...
> >
> > i know theese are wery disturbing and bald words by me but hey sb has 
> > to talk some sence to you... i have found it very interesting to read 
> > some discussions and to listen to the projects that were (not anymore 
> > as i see), and some links are supperb, but the old ppl have taken 
> > over to greatly...
> >
> > just wanting to save a great list, because i know lot of ppl who have 
> > left this list cause of your dead horse beating...
> >
> > oswald grain
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