RE: [microsound] Cage's 0'00"

[Richard Kamerman <rfkorp@xxxxxxxxx>]

Seriously, man.  No need to get pissed off because the community generates a broad range of discussion.  To address the under 40 jab, I'm only 20 but I understand the genius of men like Cage and Stockhausen, and Subotnick and honestly don't quite get the excitement over Aphex Twin and their like.  
 
However, that doesn't mean I don't want to learn.  If you're going to fuel a long interesting discussion on the innovations of Aphex Twin I'm sure plenty of people would participate and plenty of people would learn from it and people like me just might develop a newfound love for the music through the new understanding.  Likewise, there's likely a lot you could learn from this discussion if you would open up your mind.

I believe firmly in the use of technology as the future of musical innovation but that does not mean that works that implement acoustic instruments should be disregarded.  Quite frankly, the fact that you would consider Xenakis for one so old-school that he's are already outdated and usless scares me a bit.
 
-R.

Oswald Grain <Oswald.Grain@xxxxxx> wrote:

cage AGAIN ??? sorry for bad language, but wtf riily ppl,
go creat a separate list only for cage and xenaksis.
dont you understand here are younger ppl than 40 also, 
i dont give a s$£@@? bout cage. but i also dont force you 
to understand why aphex twin is called the equiwalent of bethohwen in our time.

i am asking where is the world going if ppl like kim cascone and the like are
the great mentors who are teatching others bout microsound and electronic music
only pased on a narrow wiev (cage and the old school ppl). i think some of you fail to see the new inovative things nowadays and only discuss the GREAT effects of cages and xenaksis tunes, sure they made a great effort, but thats soooo long ago, lets discuss what is happening now... but wait you actually are not able to, because you live in the past and fail to see the present nor the future...

i know theese are wery disturbing and bald words by me but hey sb has to talk some sence to you... i have found it very interesting to read some discussions and to listen to the projects that were (not anymore as i see), and some links are supperb, but the old ppl have taken over to greatly...

just wanting to save a great list, because i know lot of ppl who have left this list cause of your dead horse beating...

oswald grain 


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