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Re: [microsound] podcasting site?



I admit, I use them.. but here is more information about what drives
the mp3 format (from http://www.mp3licensing.com/ )

First off not to sound biased, you can use mp3 commercially if your
revenue is under $100K/year.. but I still think this information is
useful.

Info is as follows:

A license is needed for commercial (i.e., revenue-generating) use of
mp3/mp3PRO in broadcast systems (terrestrial, satellite, cable and/or
other distribution channels), streaming applications (via Internet,
intranets and/or other networks), other content distribution systems
(pay-audio or audio-on-demand applications and the like) or for use of
mp3/mp3PRO on physical media (compact discs, digital versatile discs,
semiconductor chips, hard drives, memory cards and the like).

However, no license is needed for private, non-commercial activities
(e.g., home-entertainment, receiving broadcasts and creating a
personal music library), not generating revenue or other consideration
of any kind or for entities with an annual gross revenue less than US$
100 000.00.

mp3 royaly fees:

PC Software Applications
mp3 	Decoder 	· US$ 0.75 per unit or US$ 50 000.00 - US$ 60 000.00
one-time paid-up

Encoder / Codec 	· US$ 2.50 - US$ 5.00 per unit

mp3PRO 	Decoder 	· US$ 1.25 per unit or US$ 90 000.00 one-time paid-up

Encoder / Codec 	· US$ 5.00 per unit

Hardware Products
mp3 	Decoder 	· US$ 0.75 per unit
Encoder / Codec 	· US$ 1.25 - US$ 2.50 per unit
mp3PRO 	Decoder 	· US$ 1.25 per unit
Encoder / Codec 	· US$ 5.00 per unit

ICs / DSPs
For available software, supported platforms, porting and licensing
options, please contact us at info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Games
mp3 	· US$ 2 500.00 per title
mp3PRO 	· US$ 3 750.00 per title

Electronic Music Distribution / Broadcasting / Streaming
mp3 	· 2.0 % of related revenue
mp3PRO 	· 3.0 % of related revenue

To see a list of patents they hold, check out:
http://www.mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html

The size of this list is sickening.

I appologize if this is going off topic, but I think that ditribution
is a very important topic.

On 7/20/05, Jan L. <jan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> You can buy an any MP3-player and use open-source aggregators. There
> are many free tools. Or see what IBM/Microsoft has to offer you.
> Apple has just made it easier for its own customers to use/listen to
> podcasts (or "RSS with audio/video attachments").  This is what Apple
> usually does. You dont care about that. Fair enough. Apple dont care
> about you. Steve Jobs is doing his job very good - many seems to
> beleive podcasting has something to do (and started) with ipods and
> Apple iTunes.
>
> But neither Apple or anyone else owns podcasting (or "RSS with audio/
> video attachments"). It is free (except if you use the MP3-format for
> your attachments, *that* format is  a corporate property).
>
> The guys who started this simply initially used iPods as it was easy
> and documented how to script automated download of the feeds from the
> net into an iPod. Hence the term "podcasting". It was always intended
> from the very beginning to work with any player - not just iPods.
> They tried to come up with a better term for a long time - but didnt
> and now everyone use the term so it is not easy to change. At least
> it is not called "iPodcasting".
>
> Sometimes I just listen on the desktop computer (no iPod connected).
> Sometimes I burn the casts onto some CD-RW:s and listen in the car.
>
> It is a very simple and very open technology. Just an XML-file and a
> bunch of audio/video files accessible through HTTP. And very
> conveneient.
>
>
>
> 20 jul 2005 kl. 20.31 skrev Derek Mason:
>
> > I refuse to buy an ipod because I don't own an Apple computer.  I
> > work off my IBM thinkpad laptop.  I don't want to be forced to buy
> > something and have compatibility problems.
> >
> > ......in other words, your right.  It is associative trademark
> > branding!
> >
> > Derek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "nathan c. dickerson" <ndickerson@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: microsound <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [microsound] podcasting site?
> > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:31:51 -0700
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Look at the format of a podcast RSS feed and you will find the
> >> following tags:
> >>
> >> <itunes:explicit></itunes:explicit>
> >> <itunes:author></itunes:author>
> >> <itunes:summary></itunes:summary>
> >>
> >> This technology existed before itunes. There is no reason to name
> >> tags
> >> this way in any kind of open standard.
> >>
> >> Apple created a stylized version of a product that already existed;
> >> Understood the trend of content syndication, exploited it, and
> >> produced a defacto standard, which they now control.
> >>
> >> Even the RSS community has a problem with this -- Apple didn't even
> >> consult the RSS community about format standards.
> >>
> >> Upon hearing 'podcast', 'ipod' immediatly comes to mind. This is
> >> wrong
> >> for any kind of open standard -- this is associative trademark
> >> branding!
> >>
> >> This is Apples game -- Apple's habits of branding in public spaces
> >> (renting/buying ALL the advertising space in transportation hubs such
> >> as subways and public transit systems) and virtual spaces is
> >> unethical.
> >>
> >> Are there really only a few people here who see a problem with this?
> >>
> >> On 7/20/05, Guillaume Grenier <grenier.g@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 20/07/05 10:08, { brad brace } said in living color:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> wouldn't simple downloads of mp3s(or oggs) be more
> >>>> egalitarian than becoming dependent on proprietary ipod
> >>>> hard/software?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> There's nothing proprietary in podcasts.
> >>>
> >>> It's just a RSS 2.0 feed (using an XML file) with a MP3 enclosure.
> >>>
> >>> As for aggregators (the software that checks and downloads new
> >>> content),
> >>> there are a shitload of them: some free/some not free (in the $
> >>> sense), some
> >>> developed by companies/developed by a community/developed by just
> >>> one guy,
> >>> some open-source/some closed, etc. Just choose whatever works
> >>> best for you.
> >>>
> >>> Actually, the only proprietary aspect of the whole thing is the
> >>> MP3. And of
> >>> course, you're not obligated to use this format -- you could use
> >>> an Ogg file
> >>> or whatever else audio format you see fit to use.
> >>>
> >>> You can then listen to these "podcasts" on whichever device you
> >>> want.
> >>>
> >>> g.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Guillaume Grenier - grenier.g@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>
> >>> "Things are more like they are now than they ever were before."
> >>>
> >>> (Dwight Eisenhower)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
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