Re: [microsound] podcasting site?

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 it's the same difference as saying "get the hoover luv" when really one 
should say "be a dear and fetch the vaccum cleaner"
or "i need a kleenex" when really one should say "i need a tissue"

whilst i would be troubled by the apple corporation claiming that they 
invented art i think that perhaps this is going a bit too far...

ok ok enough of the sarcasm, look at it this way - if you make music and 
you want it to be heard, and someone else is doing all the expensive bit 
of marketing their product to play your music is that so much of a 
problem?  the <itunes> tags are arbitrary, thats just something 
generated by their web-serving technology. you can still have a feed to 
itunes or any other player/browser without these tags.

i agree apple are the mc-daddies of marketing. whilst people who don't 
know any better will always associate podcasts with ipods, those who 
bother to learn more about the technology involved might want to learn 
more.

what i am trying to say is that yes it's bad for competition (for an 
internet (music) service provider) , but it's not so bad for music and 
it's not so bad for people who don't have the technical knowledge or 
will to learn the difference. i guess it's down to the priorities of the 
individual...

and aren't these tags specfic to itunes not rss feeds in general? e.g. 
itunes is an apple product  to make the most of itunes these additional 
tags are itunes specific and it gives you the opprtunity to exploit it 
to you own ends, which i assume is music (or microsound)

In other words is Steve Jobs is the new Satan?


nathan c. dickerson wrote:

>Look at the format of a podcast RSS feed and you will find the following tags:
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><itunes:explicit></itunes:explicit>
><itunes:author></itunes:author>
><itunes:summary></itunes:summary>
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>This technology existed before itunes. There is no reason to name tags
>this way in any kind of open standard.
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>Apple created a stylized version of a product that already existed;
>Understood the trend of content syndication, exploited it, and
>produced a defacto standard, which they now control.
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>Even the RSS community has a problem with this -- Apple didn't even
>consult the RSS community about format standards.
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>Upon hearing 'podcast', 'ipod' immediatly comes to mind. This is wrong
>for any kind of open standard -- this is associative trademark
>branding!
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>This is Apples game -- Apple's habits of branding in public spaces
>(renting/buying ALL the advertising space in transportation hubs such
>as subways and public transit systems) and virtual spaces is
>unethical.
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>Are there really only a few people here who see a problem with this?
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>On 7/20/05, Guillaume Grenier <grenier.g@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>On 20/07/05 10:08, { brad brace } said in living color:
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>>>wouldn't simple downloads of mp3s(or oggs) be more
>>>egalitarian than becoming dependent on proprietary ipod
>>>hard/software?
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>>There's nothing proprietary in podcasts.
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>>It's just a RSS 2.0 feed (using an XML file) with a MP3 enclosure.
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>>As for aggregators (the software that checks and downloads new content),
>>there are a shitload of them: some free/some not free (in the $ sense), some
>>developed by companies/developed by a community/developed by just one guy,
>>some open-source/some closed, etc. Just choose whatever works best for you.
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>>Actually, the only proprietary aspect of the whole thing is the MP3. And of
>>course, you're not obligated to use this format -- you could use an Ogg file
>>or whatever else audio format you see fit to use.
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>>You can then listen to these "podcasts" on whichever device you want.
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>>g.
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>>--
>>Guillaume Grenier - grenier.g@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>"Things are more like they are now than they ever were before."
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>>(Dwight Eisenhower)
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