Re: [microsound] folk-music instrument

[Richard Kamerman <rfkorp@xxxxxxxxx>]

The semantics of defining folk music here are getting
ridiculous.  

In the words of Louis Armstrong, "All music is folk
music. I ain't never heard a horse sing a song."

-R.

--- Thaniel Lee <thanielionlee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> i personally think that the term folk art/music is a
> label that academia
> made up to seperate and segragate the
> poor/minoraties from the academia...
> in my opinion low art is a black kid talking about
> being a poor black kid,
> but high art is a white guy with a MFA taking photos
> of the black kid.
> 
> On 2/11/06, mat.the.w <craque@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps it is that the people who can only express
> themselves through a
> > more
> > analytical medium now finally can.
> >
> > On 2/10/06 10:25 PM, "jeff gburek"
> <tsazmaniac@xxxxxxxxx> scribed:
> >
> > > i don't think devlashnull was saying laptoppers
> should
> > > start "covering" folk-music traditions. maybe
> the
> > > duelling banjos bit is a little too "hee-haw" to
> take
> > > seriously. but there is a concept underlying
> this that
> > > i find compelling: that the laptop has become
> very
> > > common tool for expressing, akin one's voice,
> which is
> > > also part of one's experience. i don't think of
> > > folk-music as just a genre wherein you have your
> rosco
> > > holcomb and your skip (or joseph) spence or
> records
> > > and your harry smith anthology etc. set out on
> the
> > > table to define what the music is. the argument
> has
> > > been made that all folk-music is essentially
> popular
> > > music. but i think of it differently: it comes
> out of
> > > the songs you sing while working or after work
> when
> > > waiting for the dinner that isn't coming because
> the
> > > government seized all your chickens saying they
> got
> > > some kind of flu. like that. arguably most
> people with
> > > laptops don't have those kind of blues to sing.
> but on
> > > the other hand, there is still isolation, death,
> > > loneliness and desperation and the laptop itself
> to
> > > make the material of laments
> > > jg
> > >
> > > --- roberth <roberth@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> nice image
> > >> except going no deeper into the folk tradition
> > >> than a commerialized thing like dueling banjos
> > >> sure ain't dock boggs
> > >> maybe says something about
> > >> laptop shit
> > >> robert
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "devslashnull" <dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:00 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [microsound] visual artists
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> to me this is a further reinforcement of the
> > >> notion of much "laptop"
> > >>> music (and by extension "laptop musicians")
> who
> > >> exist outside of
> > >>> academia, or without much formal training,
> being
> > >> considered more as
> > >>> "folk-artists" or making a new kind of
> > >> "folk-music".
> > >>>
> > >>> the laptop and/or personal computer (and
> related
> > >> software) having
> > >>> become, in our time, in our culture, as
> ubiquitous
> > >> as the odd guitar or
> > >>> harmonica laying around the house, are now
> what
> > >> could be considered
> > >>> "folk instruments".
> > >>>
> > >>> conjures up images of "Deliverance" where
> dueling
> > >> banjo's is played out
> > >>> by a couple of folks sitting on the porch with
> > >> laptops.
> > >>>
> > >>> in fact on a tour in the summer of 2002 we (
> > >> 3-piece laptop improv
> > >>> group) played a version of "dueling banjo's"
> on
> > >> our laptops to
> > >>> represent that very idea. we cut up all the
> > >> guiitar and banjo sections
> > >>> individually and loaded them on seperate
> machines
> > >> and proceeded to
> > >>> mangle them into sonic suuuuu-weeee.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:16 PM, David Powers
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> It wouldn't surprise me if people with a
> "proper"
> > >> musical background
> > >>>> of some sort (I'm a music school dropout) are
> a
> > >> minority,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> CommTom
> > >>> Communications of Tomorrow
> > >>> "it's only a day away"
> > >>>
> > >>> unique electronic music for the adventurous
> ear.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.commtom.com
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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