[microsound] thanks - [was time]

[Tim Kugel <timkugel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Bill Jarboe!! long time....thanks for your time....

>    Some ancient philosophers claimed that time was excrement.  consider time in things instead of things in time'.

CRAP in/as time? great idea

> instance the idea that something 167 bpm is faster than something 112

I agree because slow pulse give-a da mind more room

>  the memory of those events ; outside of=20
> time , or at least  from a different perspective.

 memory is tricky when comlexity increases, so the recollection of static beats is eaasier than multi facedted complex evens as Curtis Roads quote below. ?so mind makes the complex slow down

> From: jeff gburek <tsazmaniac@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [microsound] time
> there is no time before coffee.

I was a bit TOO coffee'd up

> From: cyborgk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> following Boulez's argument) one could oppose open
> time to structured/pulsed time. In open time I'd suggest that:
> 1. Every event or cloud of events is singular and

sounds like our view of the cosmos ? - space/time. it is something I have problems getting my mind around because I do not understand the physics - as a gut thing I kind of feel it maybe. it sounds like the zen concept of the ten million things are/= the one. perhaps illusion

> Pulsed time, on the other hand, implies some type of structure and
> hierarchy between sound events,

a contastant pulse - a sync produced by the pulse of a wave is different than a sync produced by a calculus performed by a CPU (said to me) I think this is true...anyone who can elucidate?

> There is also dynamic versus static time. Western-oriented composition tends to focus on a dynamic use of time, while traditional world musics are typically static.

yes thanks - maybe nonWest 'static' time can contain it too...variaion in time signature, tempo and time-mixing/domain mixing - use of Western time can be very static as well

> Finally, different time domains: ie.
> micro-, meso-, and macro- events.

very useful reminder. And there is time vs timing..which perhaps is what I am thinkin about with my gear. Timing can also involve "phrase"  Hope this all compresses on the digest...tim ps anyone know of a hardware midi clock/seq that goes to zero?


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