Re: [microsound] correspondence between hand-made electronics and Pd/Max/MSP (was Socio/political implications of microsound music?)

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I agree with the point that limitations in tools provide better
creative results. That has been my point of view for many years,
considering the natural economic limitations we South American artists
have. We are used to having to deal with scarce resources. But lately I
have found that there`s a gap to be leaped to another creative universe
based on the complete opposite. Software provides a rich and unlimited
world of tools, that is something thoroughly discussed already.

What I've found is that I have finally overcome my fear of complete
freedom, and
realized that endorsing limitations for creative purposes is an excuse.
It's like an agorafobia, fear of endless resources. Being used to extract
the most from the minimun, it was hard to transit to a god-like place with
unlimited possibilities (although this is only an illusion since hard and
software is always limited in some way). I myself feel that I'm in a
superior position now that I'm capable of doing whatever I wish in audio
and video, without having the creeps of complete freedom, and have realized
how stupid it was to think limitations were better. Off course, I have a
very hard time now trying to maintin myself within boundaries, and this is
my merit.

Hernan

www.cooptrol.com
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> You might want to check out the program called ninjam www.ninjam.com it
> is a very effective realtime audio jamming software. -Paul
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> Björn Eriksson wrote:
>> I guess studying how they did things at the german tank also the one
>> in Canada "Silophone"
>> www.silophone.net could be useful. You can try to get in contact with
>> the responsible people out there.
>>
>> I It should be possible to setup something like that with
>> -internet connection (fairly stable and fast)
>> -two computer with soundcards
>> -an amplifyer with one or two loudspeakers connected to one of the
>> computers
>> -a microphone connected to the other computer (mono or stereo) (this
>> computer shall be standing some distance away from the playing computer.
>> -some programming and web design
>> -a web camera connected to one of the computers
>>
>> These things could probably be done easily with existing software like
>> Skype to keep it really simple. Two computers are not needed either if
>> it is allowed to have not syncronised playing/recording. For instance
>> the sound can be played somewhere in the location on  portable
>> CD-player. But I guess this project includes the automation part.
>>
>> I have no idea if this has been done before. Interesting project indeed.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Björn Eriksson
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Jarboe"
>> <billjarboe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "microsound" <microsound@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 7:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [microsound] correspondence between hand-made electronics
>> and Pd/Max/MSP (was Socio/political implications of microsound music?)
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>   I have un idea for a microsound project!
>>>
>>>   I was recently enthralled by a largish reverb tank found at
>>> http://www.tank-fx.de/ . I uploaded a flac (soundfile) and was
>>> rewarded with another flac (reverberated soundfile).
>>>
>>>   It could be very good to upload soundfiles using the same method as
>>> that found at  http://www.tank-fx.de/  to various destinations in the
>>> world. A sound might arrive at someone's studio , a retail business ,
>>> a university electronic music department , a frozen arctic lake , a
>>> brothel , an opium den and then rerecord in combination with whatever
>>> was happening there. It might be cool if the soundfile could politely
>>> announce itself visually.
>>>
>>>   Do any of you know how to implement this type of automatic exchange
>>> using software? Is it being done already? Do you know where?
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> -bill
>>>
>>> http://chilowethiastoneindex.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~billjarboe/sapbb.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Exegene wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Software and programming languages are formalized relations, so
>>>> computer music at the composition on the screen stage is, being
>>>> expressed in terms of software and programming languages, also
>>>> formalized relations, that is math, with probably some arbitrary
>>>> adulteration mucking up the pool. As such some kinds of computer
>>>> music are as limited in their expressivity and musical-ness as is
>>>> the composer in hir fluency in the appropriate mathematics. Consider
>>>> the common experience of moving from a palette limited to
>>>> pre-composed instruments not much more complicated than
>>>> "Pitch source => 2 Oscillators, detuned => Filter => Amplifier =>
>>>> Output"
>>>> to comparative fluency in a language that allows the consideration
>>>> and use of sufficiently rich timbres, meaningful control schemes,
>>>> etc., probably through years of painful study and yet more painful
>>>> recordings. It's through the experience and maturation of much
>>>> intimacy that one arrives at satisfactory music.
>>>
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