Re: [microsound] fascio

[aleks vasic <bvasic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Reread my statement.  The """As we know it""" part is pretty important" 
  :)

I would call the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan modern capitalistic 
imperialism.  What's your point?

I think if we were to get into a tit for tat in-regards to how 
ideologies are abused, and the atrocities that they have spawned, that 
capitalism would come in second to marxism/ or the corruption of the 
ideology of marxism.  Communism used by dictators and Tyrants, Stalin?  
Pol
Pot?  Nicolae Ceaucescu?  Countless of other examples?   Again, its 
man, and not the ideology.  Under the guise of  tyrannical 
communism(corrupted ideology of communsim) people lose all of there 
rights.  They have no voice even though it is supposed to be equality 
for all.  The lack of those rights, or checks and balances allow 
greater attrocities to transpire.

Modern capitalism keeps us in check by letting us think we have 
freedoms.  Most people are apathetic to their surroundings, as long as 
they have two cars in the drive way, steaks in the fridge, and a high 
definition entertainment system they really could give a rats ass about 
what transpires around them.  Keep us fat and happy and the powers that 
be can do as they please.

Please, i am not saying any ideology is better then the other.  I could 
go on a lengthy venomous rant about my feelings an observations of the 
world around me.   Especially in the US where i currently live (do not 
mean to offend anyone here)  It angers and frustrates me almost daily.

Greed kills.  I would like to elaborate/discuss this further when i am 
not working.  This discussion deserves more then quickly rattled off 
emails in between my work for, "The Man"


aLEKs



On Oct 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Kim Cascone wrote:

>> Fascism did not exist as we know
>> it a hundred years ago.
>
> quote: 'Fascio (plural: fasci) is an Italian language word which was 
> used in the late 19th century to refer to radical political groups of 
> many different (and sometimes opposing) orientations.
> A number of nationalist fasci later evolved into the 20th century 
> movement known as fascism.'
>
> while fascism - as an organized movement - didn't officially get 
> started until 1922 the radical right wing was referred to as 'fascio' 
> and more importantly fascism can be seen as a crisis in the 
> development of capitalism
>
> as for Imperialism: what do you call the US invasions of Afghanistan 
> and Iraq? (not to mention countless other examples)