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Re: [microsound] humorous beasts
This discussion is interesting to me. Earlier in the year, I was
finishing up college and was also working on a weekly podcast/radio
program that I had spearheaded. This involved incorporating a large
assortment of other people to help generate enough content to fill the
short span of 30-45 mins.
What I learned from my experience, and other experiences where I was
not the "director," but more of a supporting role, is that to create
something truly great with more people than yourself requires a few
things:
1) Commitment--If you can't even rely upon people, then how can you
organize anything?
2) Intensity of the leader--people are more likely to work harder for
another person if they feel that the person has a vision or almost
superhuman drive to complete the project.
So good creative projects in my mind are more like benevolent
dictatorships than democracies. I've tried the democracy approach,
and REALLY wanted to believe that it would work. This was great for
jamming and generating ideas and so forth, but when organization and
arrangement were necessary, squabbling would start, egos would get
bruised, and it was hard to create a unified product.
Now, I think that there are ways to have a revolving or
compartmentalized dictatorship, where different aspects of the project
are rotated or allocated amongst different people. But pure democracy
doesn't scale well. Once a group gets to be a certain size, it is
necessary to have some level of stratification, just to allocate the
space and resources effectively.
(Think anthropologically about how tribal bands, the best real world
example of true democracy with their lack of bureaucratic structure,
tend to fission after their populations get above 50 members. Or try
to imagine a corporation that operated like a tribal band: it would
have a hard time going public!)
~Kyle
On 10/4/06, Xdugef <info@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
--- David Powers <cyborgk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Working in a group doesn't necessarily "water down" ideas, but it is
> important that each group member work from their area of strength,
> and
> that work is divided in a rational way according to the abilities of
> group members. From my view, it's okay and even necessary for a
> person
> to "dominate" (maybe a loaded choice of words) if they have a
> particular area of expertise that others lack; but this should be
> balanced by the ability of the group to provide input and take charge
> of matters in other areas. Most importantly, group members have to be
> able to share a common vision, or projects are doomed to failure from
> the start.
I don't come from an acoustical music background but in computar
graphics production there are certainly some parallels.
Common vision is certainly important if you want to be in a band but I
don't think that a successful collaboration has to have that much
commitment.
It would be interesting to me to alternatively work in a group who do
not share the same vision but do have the same goal of collaborating on
a sound based project. And then round robin collab on each others
vision.
>These are very real issues, and learning to negotiate such problems is
>precisely what makes this kind of artistic work truly "political" -
>not in the artistic content, but in the manner of production itself.
I suppose but what I am hearing is a want for egalitarian structures
for production.
"Affirming, promoting, or characterized by belief in equal political,
economic, social, and civil rights for all people."
I have a hard time not associating somebody getting screwed when it
comes to government and politics.
Adrian
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