Re: [microsound] boris + sunn o))) collaboration

[Xdugef <info@xxxxxxxxxx>]

You may not beable to afford a porsche but you can buy car kits to make
your toyota look like one and there have been lawsuits over that exact
issue.

Actually ADOBE is very aware that their products are highly
"downloaded" and susposedly they price it accordingly. Although I have
never bought into the concept software makers would actually charge
less if there was no piracy because no piracy does not mean that
everyone would in fact buy the software. Less piracy does not insure
more sales however lower prices might insure more sales. 

The reason why the argument is made for the use of the word stealing is
that it is amore "concrete" subject that the dumb ole public can
understand. Otherwise they see the intangible as somewhat freely
available like the ether or radio waves. 

The ones who are making profits are the P2P developers who put banner
ads in there software and they like radio stations should probably pay
royalties for doing this. But I don't even want to think what would
happen if the FCC or RIAA actually had say over how things were done on
the internet. What if ISP had to pay royalties like the manufacturers
of recordable CD's and tape media to offset losses due to piracy. As is
the the whole net neutrality thing is rearing it's head to charge the
users more for going online.. so me of that money it if happens should
go to salve this issue.



AD


--- steinbrüchel <steinbruchel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> i completely disagree. you're just looking for an excuse for your
> actions.
> i don't drive a porsche because i can't afford it (simple as that).
> if
> everybody would think like you there would be no ADOBE very fast. and
> it's
> so simple to argue that someone like mark knopfler and eric clapton
> anyway
> have enough money (so they sure won't mind).
> 
> so basically you're saying that everybody that has more money then
> you do
> will not be supported in any way by you because your the poorer chap
> (or
> where do you put the line?)
> 
> 
> Am 29.11.2006 20:33 Uhr schrieb "Robert Arnold" unter
> <warbaby@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> > I certainly agree with you in principle, but sometimes principle
> has
> > to take a back seat to poverty. I've had virtually no income for
> the
> > past 6 months or so, and the music I download is not by struggling
> > artists but by musicians who have more money than they know what to
> > do with (the last time I downloaded it was stuff by Eric Clapton
> and
> > Mark Knopfler). When I do have the funds to pay for CDs, that's
> when
> > I buy stuff from musicians who need the money.
> > 
> > Same goes for software. I always pay for shareware by individual
> > programmers for whom a few bucks matter, but Adobe won't go out of
> > business if I get a boot of Photoshop, without which I can't do my
> > own art. My ethics may be a bit slippery, but that's the way it is
> > sometimes when you live on the fringes.
> > 
> > Sorry if my attitude offends anyone. I promise you that my
> principles
> > will be higher as soon as I can afford them.
> > 
> > R.
> > 
> > 
> >> Yes, but from what I understand, none of this money that goes to
> Allofmp3
> >> goes to the artists.  I consider that a greater theft than just
> trading good
> >> tunes (since radio isn't doing its job nowadays).
> >> 
> >> ~Kyle
> >> 
> >> On 11/28/06, Robert Arnold <warbaby@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> You can download the album for 2 bucks from AllOfMP3:
> >>> 
> >>>
>
http://music.allofmp3.com/r2/Sunn_0)/Altar_(With_Boris)/group_66770/album_2/
> >>> albref_14/mcatalog.shtml
> >>> 
> >>> AllOfMP3 is a great resource for downloading music. They're
> located
> >>> in Russia, so their downloads are really cheap (important
> >>> consideration for us po' folk). I've been using them for a couple
> of
> >>> years and have found them very reliable to deal with - no problem
> >>> with credit cards through their payment site.
> >>> 
> >>> R.
> >>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> .:.: http://www.synchron.ch :.:.
> 
> 
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