Re: [microsound] AI & rhythm perception - 'groove' heuristics?

[Graham Miller <grahammiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

i'd argue that while it may be objectively the 'same groove every  
time round' it is doesn't sound that way cognitively.  repetition  
certainly changes the way things sound. one bar of james brown is not  
as funky as 4, 8 or 16 bars of the same thing.  as the brain grapples  
with pattern and repetition (which is basically what neural nets do  
best) different structures emerge that are subjective and unique to  
the listener, i think. that's what makes repetitive music so  
pleasurable and interesting, for me at least.

g.

On 21-Nov-06, at 4:26 PM, Damian Stewart wrote:

> Paul Sanders wrote:
>
> > In music a beat is not the equivalent of a mathematical point on a  
> > mathematical line. It has its own dimensions. No two beats are  
> > exactly alike.
>
> I'm currently reading "Unlocking the Groove" by Mark Butler, which  
> talks about electronic dance music (EDM) from a music-theoretical  
> perspective. One of the things it is pulling up is this idea that,  
> in EDM, because of the mechanical origin of the beats (sequencers  
> and drum machines) actually the beat does become the equivalent of  
> a mathematical point on a mathematical line. Yet, we still manage  
> to infer groove and 'funkiness' from a machine-generated beat that  
> is precisely the same every time round.
>
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