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Re: [microsound] Greenpeace and apple

but nowhere in your "rhetoric" did you actually counter my argument, you just sort went into attack mode without actually saying anything. was your abusive response really the best you could do?
  i still say your objections to this greenpeace campaign really doesnt make any sense.
  yes greenpeace are "in the world"...do you really think they dont address the reality of this internally and look for the best possible solutions to the contradictions that come with that. even the most cynical part of me believes that they would do this even if only for public relations reasons. probably if you bothered to look around or ask you might find greenpeace's own policy regarding the resources they use, after all this is part of what they are asking apple to do.
  anyway...this is getting way off topic so this will be my last post in this particular thread.

Neil Wiernik <neil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Im not slamming green peace Im slamming the rehtoric that you and aleks 
are spewing out.. I acctually for the most part support green peace just 
not when they dont look in thier own back yard at thier own politics...

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006, xe non wrote:

> sexual abuse of animals? really?
> aleks....i suspect you and i are in the presence of a
> wind-up artist.
> if thats not the case -- neil, i really dont see what
> purpose slamming the greenpeace campaign serves. if you dont
> like it, dont participate, if greenpeace doesnt live up to
> your standards and goals (still unclear as to what those are
> exactly) move to the vanguard and do better, but really,
> your invective-filled non-critique (greenpeace isnt perfect
> so they should close up shop and go away???) is baffling
> and doesnt offer anything but vitriol.
> i still think the greenpeace campaign is nicely done... i
> wouldnt mind a microsound project in support by individuals
> so inclined, im not really a sound artist but rather
> video...if anyone feels a video portion would add to thier
> soundwork...drop a line.
> xe
> Neil Wiernik wrote:
> my point is that you argue things in excess, you fight other peoples
> battels for them and more over just like to hear your voice speak and for
> what NO REASON that I can see!!! jesus!!!!!!
> regarding your short sighted comment about ibm is that your sitting here
> and dissing apple when 99.9999999999999999 percent of all things produced
> for consumer wants/needs are opressing someone some where so like I said
> put a sock in it, no one really wants to hear your whining its a known
> fact that we all know adn live with... if you want to be perfect go live
> in a cave in the mountains and eat dirt and run around naked but even tehn
> youll opress come thing like the tiny bugs and bacteria youll kill when
> eating the dirt and the grass youll sept on running around naked
> not to mention the sexual abuse youll enforce on the poor animals as they
> are forced to watch you running naked through the mountains ... thats just
> terrable I think we should censor every thing as evil as its the only way
> we can live clean no opressive lives!!!
> (if you take this reply as serious dont even bother)
> "The man from Afghanistan has made some significant changes to the RV."
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